Et tu Guardian?

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[–]Femaleisnthateful 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Stonewall's foul-ups are becoming too big to ignore. Now that the courts are calling out Stonewall's actions with tangible evidence, TRAs can no longer claim that criticism of Stonewall is ideologically based, or 'bigotry'. Between this, and the Kiera Bell case, gender ideology and radical transactivism is being dragged into the sunlight, and the mainstream public aren't going to like it.

I'm hoping we're reaching a tipping point.

[–]Virginia_Plain 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

From across the Atlantic, it is very interesting to see the sudden gear-changing going on in the United Kingdom over trans issues. I think Sodha brings up good points regarding Stonewall's treatment of women and its push to chill free speech.

Something she touches on briefly, which needs to be discussed further, is the implications of an ostensible gay rights organization having redefined its mission to the point of betraying those it once served.

[–][deleted] 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Based Guardian. Hoping in next few years the media gets peaked transed eventually

[–]Virginia_Plain 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There was a 60 Minutes special in the USA which briefly discussed detransition, and the outrage was palpable. Them.us, a "queer" publication, stated that there are not two sides to giving life-saving healthcare to people, which is ridiculous. The special wasn't even implying that transgender healthcare should be scrapped, just that there were people being improperly guided down this path. In that way, it was no different than any other investigative news segment discussing, say the overprescription of a certain medication.

For now, I think the public still knee-jerks back whenever the LGBT organizations raise a stink, but I'm reminded of the Bene Gesserit in Dune. Among their many abilities was the use of "The Voice" which would cause targets to immediately, almost unthinkingly obey any sort of command. Over time however, the Bene Gesserit found that the effectiveness of The Voice faded, and overreliance on it would render the population immune to its effects. At some point, people are going to start actually thinking about the implications of what is being asked of them, and accusing them of queerphobia for not immediately obeying will be shrugged off. Unfortunately, I think society is in for a bit of pain in the meantime. I hope that the pendulum does not swing back hard against LGB people, nor against those trans people who aren't acting maliciously.

[–]AugustiJade 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

++ For the great use of Dune.

[–]Virginia_Plain 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Bene Gesserit always fascinated me in that series. As much shit as people rightfully talk about the decline in quality for that series, Heretics and Chapterhouse treated me to a story from their perspective. Overall, Herbert can be very self-indulgent, but he has some keen observations about how human interaction works on a personal and societal level.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just an FYI this is a columnist for The Observer, which is the Guardian's Sunday version and has a different editorial team.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Makes sense.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Wasn’t expecting this from the Guardian. You know you’re terrible when even the Guardian calls you out for being too woke.