Indoctrination / Doublethinkr/atg - If you are mad at trans people for not disclosing before a date you are a bigot and the same as a nazi

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[–][deleted] 62 insightful - 3 fun62 insightful - 2 fun63 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

I remember a thread where I said maybe cis people should disclose on a first date they don't want to date trans people because it can be dangerous for trans people to come out

That would be super easy if you assholes didn't fucking redefine what sexual orientations were. You took the words we use to describe our orientations away and then get mad at us for not making our orientations clear? Fuck off.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 42 insightful - 4 fun42 insightful - 3 fun43 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

And throw complete hissyfits when we try again with super straight/gay/lesbian/bi

[–]bopomofodojo 38 insightful - 1 fun38 insightful - 0 fun39 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup, that's literally what the superX movement was about and TRAs threw a shitfit about it. They want it both ways, whatever is convenient for them - either getting laid, or getting oppression points.

[–]julesburm1891 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That would be super easy if you assholes didn’t fucking redefine what sexual orientations were.

While also using coercion and duplicity to push into spaces where they know they aren’t wanted. Just fuck off from the people who aren’t into you and you won’t have this problem.

[–][deleted] 30 insightful - 1 fun30 insightful - 0 fun31 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, they deliberately go where they know they are not wanted and then whine about not being wanted there. They know what they're doing too, which is why they're so insistent on trying to hide.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They just love to be victims. They love it when people are angry with them, so they can feed off of the sympathy of idiotic woke people. It’s all about attention.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 27 insightful - 3 fun27 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

We used to use words like "gay," "lesbian," or "homosexual," but then they just stopped listening to those words altogether. It's like a customer saying that the employees only sign doesn't apply to them and then getting mad that the backroom wasn't adequately marked when they get kicked out.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Except now they can identify as an employee, shit all over the floor, and you can't kick them out because they are allowed to go in.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 14 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

*Chef's kiss*

[–]julesburm1891 34 insightful - 1 fun34 insightful - 0 fun35 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If your response to “idk maybe you shouldn’t catfish people” is to compare the person to a nazi, you’re the problem.

[–]usehername 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

But it's not catfishing because their personal belief and maybe cosmetic treatments literally turn them into the opposite sex!1!

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Everything these people don’t like they associate with nazis. And as a result, a growing number of people have become numb to the events that happened in World War Two.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Dating has become a game of Russian roulette now. If you say you don’t want to date a trans person, or ask the person you’re talking to before arranging a date if this person is trans, then you’re a nazi bigot who needs to be cancelled. If you discover that your date is trans and you end the date, then you’re a nazi bigot who needs to be cancelled. You can’t win in these circumstances.

[–]JulienMayfair 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You can’t win in these circumstances.

This is when you excuse yourself to go to the bathroom, slip out quietly, and block them on all media as soon as you get clear.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good advice.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

On a related note, r/catfish has been completely taken over by tras. Not allowed to feel violated over your date's real genitals. Oh no, there's just something wrong with the "cis" reactionaries who make a big deal about such things. The con game is strong on reddit.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

what sub has not been taken over by tra's at this point.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Probably none of them. Almost all of them have been taken over by one trans mod.

[–]LilianH 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Are we allowed to disclose that though? I recall stories of women being kicked off dating apps for stating they weren't interested in trans people.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No. If you say you're not interested in transpeople, you're a bigot, and you should force yourself into a situation which could be traumatising and/or dangerous to appease trans fee fees.

[–][deleted] 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Holy shit this is amazing. I'm bookmarking this. This is the perfect amalgamation of everything that makes people 'transphobic'. Let's break this down:

Doesn't the idea that we need to disclose immediately upon meeting potential partners just cater to a transphobic idea that a cis person will "accidentally" sleep with / be attracted to a trans person who passes? ..... I also completely understand disclosing for your own safety due to "trans panic"

Lots of words to say 'rape by deception'. There's a reason not disclosing HIV status to potential partners is considered a crime in some places. People have the right to refuse to date someone for ANY reason, from the heavy: disability status, political differences, fertility status, etc. To the "bigoted" (but not really): race, socioeconomic status, etc. To the superficial: weight, height, hair color, etc. No one owes you shit when it comes to who people let in their bedrooms.

Aren't "concerns" like a preference for "non-surgical genitalia" just transphobic?

Aren't "concerns" like a preference for "non-wax fruit" just stilllife art-phobic? -GLaDOS voice- That's you. That's how dumb you sound.

EDIT: I just want to clarify that something like genital preference isn't what I'm saying is transphobic. No one is trying to force anyone into doing anything they don't want to do. I'm specifically and ONLY saying that pressuring trans people to disclose immediately is transphobic.

So, theoretically, OP is okay with the humiliation of being kicked out of someone's bedroom after taking his clothes off because he's a 'woman' with a dick, but not with someone politely asking if he's trans beforehand so they can, y'know, avoid hurting his feelings and getting called slurs. Lmao okay. We all know that's a lie.

Aaaand this comment:

I remember a thread where I said maybe cis people should disclose on a first date they don't want to date trans people because it can be dangerous for trans people to come out. But that idea was downvoted into oblivion.

You were downvoted to oblivion because you know god damn well "cis" people who say they aren't into trans people get called transphobic, cancelled, doxxed, fired, and potentially their livelihoods ruined. Fuck off with your feigned ignorance.

I really hope they keep saying this stuff. Keep peaking people with your ridiculous demands. I hope all the AGP transwomen in their programmer socks and cat ears code dozens of upvote bots to get this to the front page.

ETA: Also, the whole "accidentally sleeping with a trans person who passes." This doesn't happen nearly as often as they think it does. The reality is 90% of them don't pass. We just don't say anything because, contrary to what they might think, we don't get off on making trans people uncomfortable. In addition, we use preferred pronouns and such because we have better things to do than deal with the incessant whining, REEing, bitching, and crying they do about getting mISgENdErEd.

Archive link: https://archive.is/X8g4D

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Insightful, eloquent, and downright poetic. 🙌

I hope all the AGP transwomen in their programmer socks and cat ears code dozens of upvote bots to get this to the front page.

Also LOL.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Aww thanks!! I'm just Really Sick Of These People. Every day my patience thins closer to being nonexistent.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Aren't "concerns" like a preference for "non-surgical genitalia" just transphobic?

They're comparing nonfunctional imitations of actual human organs to the real deal...

Oh my...

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Let's be honest, 99% of them do not pass in person so the question of disclosure largely applies to online hookups. And in that case (as in any other) it is totally fair game.

[–]CuntWorshiperWomenholic full time | vagina fetishist part-time 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I remember a thread where I said maybe cis people should disclose on a first date they don't want to date trans people because it can be dangerous for trans people to come out

Most homo and het people are willing to but when we do so you loose your shit and try to get us fired and doxed :)

[–]insta 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How can cis people saying we have to disclose immediately be anything other than transphobia?

I mean, it is "transphobia" as they would describe. It's just cis people kind enough to play along with your fantasy until it impacts them.

Honestly, it's amazing that they demand more than this? "Disclose before dating" is the standard from cis people who just want to leave you alone to your delusions but don't genuinely believe transitioning makes you the opposite sex. It's the most tepid pushback and this still isn't good enough.