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[–]SuperGayIsOkay 13 insightful - 10 fun13 insightful - 9 fun14 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

Various guns and flags adorn the wall leading up to the ranch house's second floor.

Oh good, they have lax gun safety and don't use gun safes. How stunning and brave.

[–]usehername 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

THE TRANCH!! This is a good (but long) video explaining the tranch and one of the men ("am hole") who lives on it. It's funny in a fucked way. I recommend watching this if you have time and sanity to spare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cefz-E5qfMs

[–]julesburm1891[S] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Oh good lord. After reading the NPR article I was confused. Everything about it really sounded like the ranchers were a bag of dicks who happened to be trans and were pretending that their neighbors’ dislike of their dickishness was homophobia and transphobia. So, I’m sitting there trying to figure out why we’re being used as a shield for shitty behavior that doesn’t even have much to do with being trans and absolutely nothing to do with being LGB. But, this. Christ. This is so much crazier than I realized. (For anyone curious, the ranch stuff starts a little after 52 minutes into the video.)

Anyways, why the fuck are LGB people being drug into this mess in a national news source? Please. If we can’t drop the T, drop the LGB and leave us alone.

[–]usehername 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

From what I can find, all these men are straight to boot. But cutting off your testicles is now "queer".

[–]julesburm1891[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think the wildest part of all of this is that the am hole guy is clearly straight but is so deep into weird fetish shit that he’s willing to get fucked by a dude to fulfill his AGP fantasies.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I guess his real sexuality is aimed at himself so the other person is just some object to him.

[–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nailed it! That's a really good way to put it.

[–]usehername 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A fetish paired with mental illness will destroy a person.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

KiwiFarms, wretched hive of scum and villainy, and not for the faint of heart, has documented the tranch fairly well:

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/the-tenacious-unicorn-ranch-tenaciousranch-steampunk-penny-penellope-logue-phillip-matthew-logue.86681/

TLDR; it is not as idyllic as the news reports.

[–]SkepticalHPSSuper Straight 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I’m not surprised to see that it seems these people are in over their heads. I haven’t seen much on their animal care experience. I’ll say that while I don’t know much about alpacas, I’ve worked around horses for many years so I’m evaluating based on that.

The one person quoted in claims of bad behavior towards workers frankly sounds like they had no idea that farm work can be physically demanding and pulled a “muh disability” when they couldn’t handle it. Referring to my property as “white colonizer shit” would also sour me on you. The handwringing over the alpacas in the snow is also ridiculous. Cattle are regularly out in the snow with no blankets, some horse breeds do fine without, and it seems they aren’t necessary for alpacas unless they’re old or skinny. I don’t like the exposed insulation in the shelter though and it seems they need to build more before bringing in more animals. Like I said, while I think some of the criticisms are overblown I don’t disagree that they’re out of their league and ought to start smaller before worrying about total self sufficiency.

I’ll also state my bias here and say that I unconditionally support the right for all law-abiding adults to bear arms, regardless if I think your personal politics are stupid or not. Shitty people who like to hurt others sadly exist and police are at best 45 minutes to over an hour away in much of rural America. I immediately rolled my eyes at the panty-wetting in the NPR article over them owning eeebil “assault weapons.” What I DON’T support is masturbatory fantasies over taking out hordes of bigots coming to kill you, aiming a gun at a person simply passing by your property in a car, and basically admitting to assaulting someone at a protest. This is my problem with a lot of the far-left gun advocacy groups, they hate on right wing groups for fantasizing about killing people but then they constantly plot out how they’ll take on “nazis” and such. I need to see police reports of claims that militia groups were on the property because I frankly trust neither the “tranchers” or that right wing paper being quoted.

Either way it’s best to see more facts about this whole operation and not blindly support something because the people running it are trans or whatever.

[–]usehername 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The handwringing over the alpacas in the snow is also ridiculous.

Several have frozen to death.

it seems they aren’t necessary for alpacas unless they’re old or skinny

They're starving so yeah they're skinny.

[–]LilianH 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Neighbours probably think a cult has moved in next door.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It has

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Remote location. Peculiar revenue stream. Ideology (gender.) Anti-sociality. Clashing with locals. Guns. Lots of guns. Fences. Sex. Power hierarchies...

Yeaaaaahhh I'm gonna go with cult.

[–]upcomingDaddygay af 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Someone call the ATF and the FBI, get Waco 2.0 lined up.