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[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian[S] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

In other cases, I can forgive people for taking what roles they can get, but in this case, Levy has no such excuse. He created the show and wrote for it with his father. If he didn't want the character to be that way, it wouldn't be.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's kind of a double-edged sword though, right?

I do find it irritating that the character's sexual orientation was phrased as "pan" instead of "bi", but at the end of the day, we can't have it both ways.

Either his character is gay, continuing to perpetuate the stereotype, or his character is Kinsey 1-5, showing that the stereotype isn't always the case and people should open their minds.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Either his character is gay, continuing to perpetuate the stereotype, or his character is Kinsey 1-5, showing that the stereotype isn't always the case and people should open their minds.

It would be groundbreaking only if the character in question was straight, at least in my view.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Agree, that would be the better and more poignant expression.

I don't think straight people are quite there yet though.

[–]altmehere 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Frasier has multiple plot lines about straight men being taken for gay based on stereotypes and a plot line about a gay man being mistaken for being straight.

And that was in the 90s.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wasn't that the whole joke with Chandler on Friends? That he was being mistaken for gay.

And somehow it's one of the favourite shows of modern LGBTQ, especially Qs. Barely anyone calls that show 'problematic'.