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[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 20 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Pride lost it's meaning a long time ago.

Now it's just a consumerist freak show full of people who think doing goatse in public is a great signifier of social progress.

But hey! If you'll want to see peak Queer Theory on action, pride is a great example of it.

[–]barnarnasis this tv show my friend? 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

My local pride parade lost all meaning for me when it was moved from September to June and stopped being held in the "gayborhood" and subsequently became less connected to local history. Even before this, however, it was obvious this wasn't meant for me when I went with a friend who invited a bunch of other girls who wouldn't talk to me after finding out I was "actually...y'know...like that" (their words).

The fact that stores started dropping their Pride Collections on May 1st is really gross and annoying and transparent, and I'm someone who usually doesn't mind tacky rainbow things. Target has pride themed dog poo bags, and they aren't even striped and I don't know why that's bothering me so much! It's also gotten harder to find stuff that doesn't include the extra stripes or that godawful trans triangle :/ The only criticism I see of pink capitalism revolves around not supporting evil corporations and buying "merch" (🤢) from a small business owned by a trans woman selling shit from Aliexpress with stolen art on it.

I see perverts gyrating in leather bondage suits. I see deviants crawling on their hands and knees dressed like dogs.

Not as horrible, but I've had to stop my kid from catching condoms that were thrown into the crowd because he thought they were candy.

This year I might be (ever so slightly) more vocal in my opposition to pride.

Hell yeah! Fuck the stupid aLpHaBeT mAfIa

Edit: I also hate that the pink and orange "lesbian flag" is now mainstream. Tumblr should not leak into real life like wtf

[–]Bright_paintingLoad, lesbian biologist 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Even before this, however, it was obvious this wasn't meant for me when I went with a friend who invited a bunch of other girls who wouldn't talk to me after finding out I was "actually...y'know...like that

I knew that many straight people view pride as a party, but when did it became a party for HOMOPHOBIC straight people??!! I guess nothing should surprise me these days, but that almost made me lose my head...

[–]barnarnasis this tv show my friend? 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They were all wearing this too :/

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not as horrible, but I've had to stop my kid from catching condoms that were thrown into the crowd because he thought they were candy.

Ah, kids and their innocence.

I remember when my classmates used the condoms given to us in our sex ed class as ballons.

Good times...

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's also gotten harder to find stuff that doesn't include the extra stripes or that godawful trans triangle :/

It's like they tried to copy the pink triangle and didn't realize how those stripes(and their meaning) just don't work on a triangle no matter how it's arranged.

Anyway, I just had to look up 'trans ice cream' to see if any have been striped, and there are. But don't think into that any further unless you really wanna puke😅

I also hate that the pink and orange "lesbian flag" is now mainstream.

Yeah, orange is pretty ugly on flags, especially in that quantity. The gender exclusive ones look better.

[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The only good thing I have to say about the fetishists in pride parades is it might cause people to stop and think about what a pride parade really is, today. Is it something to do with gays, lesbians, and bisexuals? Maybe it's about the pink dollar? Is this actually family friendly? Should pride parades tone down the sexualization, or maybe the opposite: children--do they belong at a pride parade? Fetishism: is this just a qualification of het/homo/bisexuality, or is this a stand-alone phenomena?

Fetishists, and others, ought to get their own parade and stop mucking up the legacy of the gay rights movement, to which they really do owe their sexual freedom to. Not sure how you can sell a fetish parade, but I'm sure it's the same sort of question as trying to throw the first gay one.

It probably won't be long before the regular homosexuals stop showing up and it's left to trans and fetish, if what's happened in online spaces are any indication.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Fetishists, and others, ought to get their own parade and stop mucking up the legacy of the gay rights movement, to which they really do owe their sexual freedom to. Not sure how you can sell a fetish parade, but I'm sure it's the same sort of question as trying to throw the first gay one.

They're inclued in the letter soup, so it's no wonder they appear in such events in masse.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's the result of our conceptualization of sexual orientation--the salient feature of a person's sexuality--pertaining only to our own sex, and the sex of our (desired) partners, with no concern for what the particular act is. The overwhelming majority of people are only interested in plain sex, and I think it's the implicit assumption that het/homo/bi pertain to that, without ever making that conceptually, or by definition, explicit. I advocate for a narrowing of het/homo/bi to pertain strictly to the activity of sex. Without as such, the door is left open for other phenomena that are not sex (but can be combined with it, and have the same nature of compulsion and gratification) to ride along on those orientation labels. The fetishist who's only interested in their fetish with opposite-sex people, but not sex, may understand themselves to be heterosexual, but they're not. They have a different sexuality; it should have a different name.

[–]babystud 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i literally dread pride month now. just a whole month of people coming out as different personality traits and whatever mess the pride parade has become with corporations pandering for money with their rainbow logos every day. i extra dread all the woke discourse about things that literally do not matter outside of tumblr that the alphabet mafia are gonna yell about for a month straight

[–][deleted] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I see perverts gyrating in leather bondage suits. I see deviants crawling on their hands and knees dressed like dogs. I see multi-billion dollar corporations incorporating a rainbow into their logo in the hope that it'll get me to buy their product.

This, a thousand percent. Pride parades have become freakshow spectacles and corporations who claim to support LGB rights don't do anything but release pride themed merch in June in hopes to increase sales. It's all so hollow and meaningless. And people eat this shit up.

Not to mention Pride isn't even about being same sex attracted anymore. Instead it's about hating yourself, hating your body, being a narcissist, being a fetishist who preys on LGBs, and being homophobic: aka being trans. I'm already dreading the sight of that ugly ass flag with the trans colors + black and brown stripes.

[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

To me the worst part of pride is that it's now actively harmful to the people it used to exist to support. It's just a clown circus of degenerate kinksters and blue-haired they/them heterosexuals now. And none of these self-centered assholes care about the actual harm they're doing to homosexuals in parts of the world where homosexuality is still heavily stigmatized or even punishable by law. The homophobes in those countries can just point to the "Pride" freakshows in the west and use that as justification for their homophobia.

[–]reluctant_commenter 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I love this video. I've never seen it before, lol. I really relate to this, too.

"One of our spokespeople... self-appointed, uh..."

Omg. Hahahaha that is SO true.

But when I look at pride events now, I don't see normal people proud of who they are, speaking truth to power and refusing to be ashamed. I see perverts gyrating in leather bondage suits. I see deviants crawling on their hands and knees dressed like dogs. I see multi-billion dollar corporations incorporating a rainbow into their logo in the hope that it'll get me to buy their product. I see Alphabet People co-opting the struggles that same-sex attracted people have faced and then speaking for us, all the while using slurs that were never theirs to claim in the first place.

I also see that. An observation: This seems like an inevitable consequence of the fact that LGB (same sex attracted) people are an invisible minority and as such, a straight person could just announce for a day that they self-describe as being "kweer" and then talk over people who actually are LGB and who often might have trouble speaking up about their experiences of being LGB in a homophobic world because they've had past experience of shaming and pressure, which a straight person pretending would've never had. Ironic, to say the least. How do we get people talking about this more?

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, I'm prepared to bitch to everyone who will listen that "pride" products are just pandering and the companies don't give a shit about LGB people. Have any of you seen the phenomenon of straight people purchasing and wearing pride merch? A content creator I watch wears a shirt with a different flag on it every day. The first time I saw it, I thought, "oh, he's bi, cool," then the next day he was wearing a shirt with the lipstick lesbian flag. It's just some fun little colors for them.

[–]boypower 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

"I see perverts gyrating in leather bondage suits"

Do you really? Have you ever attended Pride, just wondering.

Every year this same discourse comes along how Pride is a filthy orgy where filthy gay men (always gay men) fuck and suck in public in front of childrens. Does this really happen or this just some reActionary nonsense?

[–]censorshipment 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

Depends on the city, but Atlanta Pride is filthy because of lewd men. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Toronto 2019 Pride had white dicks out during the parade. 🤢

https://youtu.be/l1r34sabuH8?t=238

[–]boypower 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oof, that's uncomfortable and cringey.

[–]orangina5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it's just 60 year old nudists. that's it. they make it seem like it's the entire pride parade. i was at that one. there was a group of doctors there 5 times larger than that nudist group.

[–]Uranian 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pride became meaningless some time in the mid-90s and has proven itself more and more pointless as the years have trudged on. Now it's just a carnival of narcissism and personality disorder. Peak "Pride" for me came when the BBC featured a photo of three middle-aged men in baby doll dresses, sucking dummies, as somehow representative of the Pride march. No, nope, nah, it deserves none of my time now.