Gay MenDo you ever stop and think, WHY is this alleged straight man putting this question to gay people and not heterosexuals?

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[–]JulienMayfair 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

There's also a post on Gaybros with a another guy lamenting the "transphobia" of AGB when all he has done is go through the comments and throw insults and charges of transphobia at people. He seems unaware that all the places he considers "safe" are heavily moderated such that he experiences an artificial consensus that doesn't accurately represent the views of LGB people as a whole.

People like him have been trained to think a certain way about gender identity theory, and they've also been trained NEVER to think beyond that dogma or to see the cracks in it.

[–]fuck_reddit 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah his "a majority of LGBT people I've talked to say it's transphobic" made me mad. 1) LB, T, or Straight people don't get a say in what gay men do in bed and 2) none of the gay men I know would ever consider sleeping with a trans person, so it's my word versus his.

[–]JulienMayfair 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Well, in a poll, only 13% of gay man say they'd date a trans man, so that puts 87% of gay men in the "transphobic" category.

These people live in echo chambers.

Edit: In a pro-trans article from 2018, it was reported:

"But most non-heterosexuals weren’t down for dating a trans person either, with only 11.5% of gay men and 29% of lesbians being trans-inclusive in their dating preferences."

https://www.them.us/story/cis-trans-dating

[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They ought to do a poll on how many trans people would be willing to date other trans people. I'd be curious to see the results. Given the amount of whining they do about "cis" people not dating them, I'm guessing that number might not be very high either.

[–]JulienMayfair 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There is such a poll out there, and there was a reasonably high percentage of trans people who say they'd date other trans people.

[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Do you know if the poll counted nb people?

[–]julesburm1891 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

My favorite part of that is where a third of the lesbians who said they’d consider dating a trans person would only date a transman.

But, really, I would say most of the people responding yes are thinking of this in a purely hypothetical way. It’s one thing to say yes to something on a survey and feel like a good, inclusive person and a totally different thing to encounter the reality of it.