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[–][deleted] 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

well if they hate cis gays so bad why do they not let us break off and form our own movement. if cis gays are the weakest link, let us leave then and form our own cis gay communities separate from you. they hate us so bad, yet they desperately wanna be apart of us. they wanna ride on the coattails of our movement. they want our approval and our attention our validation. and most of all, they want to date us and have sex with us. all while hating us.

go to hell.

[–]UselessThought 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Get the G out of LGBT

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am 100% on board with this.

[–]Rosefield 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Abusers don't want to let their victims leave.

[–]Shales123 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True. I had an abusive mom, when I was 18 she threatened to kick me out of the house, so I did the wise thing and moved out on my own accord. She then wrote me a letter telling me that it was disrespectful to move out. Abusers want you to stay so they can have the power to keep threatening to kick you out, but they don't actually want you to leave, because once you're gone the game is over

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think their ultimate goal is to control us.

I know that's paranoid.

[–][deleted] 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

well, they act like abusers, so.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You’re not being paranoid, you’re just being aware.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks. They are out to get us, but for real.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because they know that they need us. We do most of the heavy lifting. Furthermore, they enjoy abusing us, and they want us to be their slaves.

[–]orangina5 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they dont want us. we're a permanent minority. this is awkward to say but no one is saying it: they want the umbilical cord that's been created from the heterosexual community to the homosexual one. After how many centuries of murder, the heterosexual community offered a healing umbilical cord of compassion, leniency, sympathy and a space of understanding where we can be ourselves and create a community with our own homosexual identity and straight people feeling like it's time to offer us validation for our identity that they've punished us for. im in a country that now has a gay man on one of their bills. that wasnt us, that was heterosexuals who did that for us. they want that cord.

many groups see that umbilical cord and their claws have come out and they want it.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

This is just a general observation that I think this Twitter thread illustrates, but the gender community pits us against each other intentionally. They thrive off of infighting and vilification.

Edit: As OP noticed, the repetition of the phrase "weakest link" across all these accounts is an indication that this is a coordinated messaging push. I think the calls are coming from inside the house- a gay lobbying group or nonprofit is dehumanizing gay men.

[–]orangina5 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

it's not a conspiracy. the dehumanization is coming from all the other letters. gay men benefit from hypervisibility that gets them killed or murdered or made the face of "gay". Theyre the targets of homophobia and all those appropriated hate crime statistics are almost exclusively focused on them. The number one group of hate crimes over jews, blacks or any other group is gay men. When they turned the tide against homophobia, they still became the face of "gay". We dont say, "thats so lesbian" to express disgust. Globally, we say "thats so gay". Gay men suffered from hypervisibility and now all the other letters resent the visibility they get so theyre destroying themselves in an attempt to "get at" the gays. The AGP men are the ones benefiting from this infighting the most.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

What country do you live in?

[–]orangina5 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

im in "terf nation", the UK. Apparently it's terf nation because the lesbians and bi and women in general quietly mumble whn theyre being harassed. I think americans think we're some sort of stronghold when in reality there's been physical violence toward terfs at pride parades and "pride" itself has been broken down with lots of infighting so now it's going to be "intersectional". It's the same old thing pattern i've seen: accuse everyone of racism, then the lesbians accuse the gay men of making it all about them, then the bisexuals claim the lesbians are being biphobic and theyre all infighting and the solution is always, always to center trans people.

it's not unique to our community. just look at how black women try and dehumanize white women online and were cheering and supporting it and it backfired and harmed them as women as well. i genuinely dont think these transexuals have any power except for when there's a lot of infighting.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The UK does have an organised push against this gender ideology, more organised than in other English speaking countries. Then again, the TRAs do cause a lot of damage in your country, especially compared to non- English speaking countries.

[–]fijupanda 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

ah yesh, the old divide and conquer. Them Romans, sure knew how to stir trouble. Ah well, I am used to it by now. Even Jesus was like I have not come to bring peace... Dude was psychic if nothing else.

[–]orangina5 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

the infighting is caused by genuine and real issues that we never address. and then it's strategically exploited when it's ignored. i genuinely think the community should just be about humanizing same sex attraction and thats it. everything else, the heterosexuals can take care of.

even in the old days, everyone piled on to gay rights in the stupidest way possible. pedophiles did the whole "how can gay men want equal rights and complain theyre discriminated against because of their sexuality and ignore our sexuality: pedophilia?" then it took gays and lesbians both ganging up on them to push them out (they had enough power to burn down the whole community) then communists and anarchists would come in and explain we must invest all our energy into their movements first because it would help liberate us. it just keeps going and going.

just look at women's liberation. a woman cant take a single step without 500 ideologies telling her to invest in other things becuase "we're all in this together". thats how you end up with the largest march in human history, the woman's march during donald trump's presidency with 99.999% white women being lectured to by a man...louis farrakhan. A man whose entire career was spent saying the downfall of black society is the fault of the black woman because she disrupted patriarchy and made them weak and basically blamed slavery on them. That guy was there to be a speaker lol Our shit show isnt exclusive to us but when you dont agree on your goals, then this is what happens.

And now womens organizations are actively pushing for AGP straight men as if theyre now the leaders of womankind.

[–]fijupanda 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Preach! It's a circus show it is what it is truth be told.

Wait a minute... FARAKHAN was giving a lecture at the women's march?! omfg!!!! Just... Ugh. Ugh. vomits a bit inside my mouth. Wow, just wow. Why am I even surprised at this point?!

Meh, my deepest, solemnest part of my soul says it is is useless by now. Let it happen what will happen. I gave enough of my time and energy for the so called good causes but at this point I've reached all of my limits. Jumping on all of the bandwagons serves absolutely nobody but some parasites somewhere way above who stand for nothing and nobody in particular but a profit yet again. And the sheeple keep on doing what sheeple do. Shrugs.

[–]orangina5 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i dont think it should demoralize you. it just means gatekeeping is necessary. and it should help you appreciate that yes, most people are "sheep" but that increidbly small groups can hijack other groups. you can use it for good or evil. i think the magical, missing link from all human cultures that creates this rotting stench is we lack a necessary part in the alchemy of our culture: shaming and humiliating people who take advantage of other's empathy and humanity.

The more people's humanity, kindness and compassion are exploited and taken advantage of, the more you humiliate people's compassion out of them and make them feel stupid for even giving it to the world. and then they slowly turn into conservatives. im a liberal but liberalism is way too open minded. we need to start guarding people's hearts when they start opening them up to others.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

He also hated people making transactions in churches, which also became a thing later on.

[–]fijupanda 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Jesus flippin' them tables. A fave of mine I must confess.

On the other hand, I always thought Mary was Jesus. Since to me it is a story of an individual soul passing through different stages of awareness or consciousness hence virgin birth since she rebirths herself (her own new Sun-Son a symbol of the conscious mind) with some higher spiritual insight into how the world works. It is similar to pagan goddesses of past giving virgin birth to a son who becomes a leader of sorts for similar minds. For more, read up on William Bond and Pamela S. Gospel of the Goddess if interested. It is available in blog format completely online or you can buy it online.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

For me it's between that and the "don't complain about not getting meat in the desert or you have to eat a cubic kilometre of quails three foot deep that have been poisoned" incident.

That's a pretty interesting interpretation, I've never thought of it like that before.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Christ almighty! No you don't. You're sad.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Ha! We gay men do a lot of the heavy lifting, if not most of it. So why are we putting up with this shit? I have to admire the lesbians for getting organised and fighting to defend their community. If only gay men would do the same and get the G out. Yes, the T nuts and the Q nuts don’t want that, because they want us to kiss their feet 24/7. But they won’t be able to make us do what they demand us to do if gay men unite as a group and collectively stand up for ourselves and each other, if gay men fight like we used to in the 1960s and the 1970s. Look, the AIDS crisis has done a tremendous amount of damage to the gay male community, and probably the worst consequence of that crisis was the destruction of our collective spirit, but it’s time to discipline ourselves and rise back up. If we stick together, get the G out and remain vigilant, there is nothing the woke nutcases can do to stop us. And then they will cease to exist, or find some other movement to parasite off of.

Also, we can help "get the L out" lesbians and "get the B out" bisexuals, if they will also help us.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

there has never been LGBT, it was a lie. But I hate that many think it exist. An idiotic bisexual on tinder weeks ago call me LGBT. No, fuck, I'm a lesbian, not LGBT ahah

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

How casually people say "LGBTQ+ community" irks me to no end. Puts on cynical cap The non-cis-non-het miscellaneous bucket of cute oddities that mustn't be offended is what's really meant.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hate the term "LGBTQ+ Community". There is no community.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

LGBT is a shame, yet it is ruining us. I’m not LGBT. I’m not LGBTQ or LGBT+. Hell, I’m not even LGB. Nor GB. I’m just gay.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I like you, Redeyed, if I'm in Dublin some day, can I invite you for a beer? lol

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure. I’ll show you around the west of Ireland.

If I’m ever in certain parts of Italy, I’ll buy you a beer as well.

[–]fijupanda 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

virtual chest bump

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

💪🏻

[–]fijupanda 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Preach.

I got my B out the so called LGBT eons ago when I saw what was happening in university groups. Took my bacon, my tush, almost got fired for wrong nouns back then, but escaped to Mexico, lindo y querido, for a semester or two abroad. Morticia Adams grin. Ah, happy times. Sighs.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Mexico? Lucky you. Mexican girls are so hot lol

[–]fijupanda 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

damn right. only the food is hotter.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can eat mexican girls too, they're some kind of food ;)

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

You don't actually care what any of these clowns think though, do you?

Edit: Though I must say that the stereotypical drag queen way of speaking that some gay men feel the need to adopt really does burn my bush.

[–]JulienMayfair 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Goodbye." Oh, if only that were a promise they would keep, but no, they're like the ex who keeps stalking you.

If not for them, I could just go enjoy my house, my yard, my pets, my family that loves and accepts me, and my horrible cis gay male friends. I could go to a lovely dinner party with all the other horrible cis gay men at their horrible cis gay male houses in my horrible cis gay male car. I could reflect on what a horrible person I am, for a few seconds, before we start on the hor d'oeurves.

How terrible of me to build a relatively nice life that doesn't constantly run on outrage.

[–]ThiccDropkickGay 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

“I’m not afraid to say it” they really do think they’re brave for acting like such morons

[–]hellonumpty 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"...ignoring the fact that so many of your gay rights were actually won by the actions, riots and protests of trans people"

That's so funny because those 'trans people' are mostly gay men who the trans community decided to call trans. 🤭

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wtf is "cis-presenting"?

[–]RippoffOfLoveSStraight | Overuses quotation marks 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The jealousy is real

[–]fuck_reddit 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Bold talk from the 4T/¢.

[–]orangina5 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

And people wonder how stonewall charities collapsed. i looked at their profiles and some of them were genuine "cis" lesbians joining in because they somehow thought they should be "centered" around the gay community and encouraged everyone to attack gay men.

People heard the call...like all those AGP men and helped them infiltrate all the gay lobby groups. And the second they achieved their goal, the lesbians got kicked out and and all the "canons" of the gay lobbies are now pointed at lesbians lol. Well, good luck.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

That you, nettygay? You've stopped with capitals, well done, but you're back to hating and blaming everyone but gay men.

[–]orangina5 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

im not sure you know who you're replying to but i googled their profiles. some of them seem to be genuine lesbians drumming up this hatred and they have a very high "like" count for their comments. who exactly do you think is liking these comments theyre making?

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

You're a riot. Don't ever change

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 14 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 6 fun -  (5 children)

It's easy to recognize him

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

He just can't help but hate everyone but himself and maybe white gay men, if they're lucky enough to avoid his deathray of unfounded vitriol.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As a white gay man I can confirm that no-one is safe. A favourite of mine was:

you're a child. I especially like your "oh my gawd! Trans ppl are grrrrrrros! Im a narcissistic woman! hear me whine!" UGH. Tell me again how you manage to center yourself around a gigantic transexual disaster that women are responsible for generating for pushing rigid gender roles on their partners and dating pool and the children they raise and yet somehow blaming it on "the patriarchy"? Do...do you feel called out and can no longer play the victim so it's no longer fun for you? How are things at ovarit? No wonder transexuals run circles around you and make you look like a fool. You basically validate them through your cheap rhetoric and hysteria.

[–]fuck_reddit 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'll give him credit, he at least tries to change his tone and writing style, but the new account popping up with 20 posts in 24 hours is a dead giveaway.

[–]lavender_menace 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Nah. It is always obvious. Even though he tries to change the tone and style it doesn’t change much, so it is easily recognizable. But I must say changing it up helps to hear him out. Because sometimes he does bring interesting points. He just slips up every time.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Usually the first few responses sound reasonable, but he can't help himself after a bit.

[–]orangina5 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

god forbid you accept some nuance.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Oh y'all have that in England?

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Most of us. There are nutters in every bunch, however.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Oh I wouldn't doubt it. Grammaroo's alt for today decided it could pull off being British, zero effort was made.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Do you think he's trans-British?

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Accept him bigot! Make him Queen!

[–]orangina5 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

i just saw your profile. yes we do. i guess you're missing some in america where you posted a link to believing obama controls antifa. geeze. i know we're all against transing people but the type of people it ends up uniting.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I peeped your post history too, here u dropped this: u

[–]lavender_menace 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What is that all about? Did something happen? Whole ordeal sounds like some stupid flashmob. Or are the kids just bored and found new people to bash?

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Being homophobic towards a group with insufficient woke points is trendy now.

Basically it's all about finding a new "acceptable" target to condemn and hate on to make yourself feel better and pretend your personal issues aren't your own fault.