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[–]PeakingPeachEaterfemale♀ | detrans🦎 | eater of peaches 🍑 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not a fan of any extreme ideology, and I would say radical feminism is extreme.

Just some background on me I suppose...

I used to be extremely interested in radical feminism, studied up on it, watched videos, read articles, and spoke with other radfems to better understand the ideology. In the end, I came to the conclusion of just staying unaligned.

I've made a couple comments in the past about my experience with radical feminism, but I will condense it down.

But first I want to say---I have nothing against radfems, so hope nobody gets it twisted. I had many radfems call me "heartless" and "cold" for not sympathizing with transitioning despite being detrans myself. I don't hate trans people, I just don't agree with any type or form of transitioning but that makes me an "extremist, heartless asshole" lol. Then I have some radfems who I like, and they were very cool to talk to. I know not all are the same.

Anyways...

My time over there, I have seen many misandrist comments and even comments shaming other women calling them handmaidens for the smallest things. There was an argument before that "women wear makeup because men made them" but then a lesbian women chimed in(not sure if she might actually be on this sub?) and said she likes to wear makeup for herself, and she's in a relationship with a woman, not a man. So they argued back and forth with her...They've also complained about women shaving---which...I don't see what the problem is as someone who's done athletics?? Both men and women shave for athletics lol. And even if they didn't, who cares if someone shaves or not? That's there personal preference. But I guess that makes them handmaidens for liking to shave. Some days I'm a hairy wookie, and other days I'm hairless and shiny like Mr. Clean's head.

In regards to the misandrist comments I saw, I saw some that said "Women shouldn't give birth, because they might end up raising another oppressor". That seems a bit fucked up to see your own son in that light for just being born. I even had someone tell me that it's in men's DNA/biological nature to be "predatory" and "rapists". Unless they're homosexual men, this radfem said that homosexual men like Blaire White are not a threat to women. Not exactly...sure what they're trying to say about homosexual men, hopefully a good thing?? But I'm thinking maybe they're not thinking well of them.

I've also noticed radical feminism is mostly american-centric. There were several posts saying "vote for Biden!! we have no choice, because he's lesser evil than Trump!!" and when a fellow latin mentioned some things that Biden did and was mostly neutral, they attacked her and said she was wrong and her comments were downvoted. There's a hive think in that particular website, if you don't agree with them, they downvote you to hell.

I actually made a controversial post that poked holes in their hypocrisy to where they called me heartless and a few other names lol. I wont post it here though, but I can DM you OP on that one haha.

Anyways to answer your question:

Do you think the queer and trans movement will drive lesbians - particularly young lesbians - into the arms of radical feminists?

I would have to say some maybe---but the #SuperStraight movment might be more appealing to the younger audience for the wholesomeness and memes. So, they'll probably check out the #SuperLesbian equivalent to it.

I'm just looking for other people's perceptions - or your own experiences of this. Although my primary concern is the impact that the TQ movement is having, it does worry me that the reaction will be to escape into another ideology, which again looks appealing on the surface but doesn't represent our interests.

Yeah, it can be worrisome. My younger brother is in his early 20s, when he was in college, he got sucked up into those religious cults and wouldn't shut the fuck up about it for the longest time. When he dropped out of college, he realized how ridiculous the cult was and went back to being an agnostic/"apatheist"(aka, doesn't give a shit about what is or isn't). But now he debates those former cultists when they try to proselytize him and purposely argues with them for "fun", but I digress.

Anywho, I don't particular like to identify with any ideology at all. Some people try to make it their whole being/"personality". Atheism seems to be a word used more for politics[ex. "All atheists are liberals!!! If you don't agree with us, you're just as bad as those Christians!! But also we don't mind Muslims for some strange reason because we're progressives!!! That'd be 'racist' if we didn't agree with Muslims!!!"] than it's actually meaning now, so I don't use that word to identify myself. Now I just say I lack belief or don't have religion. I could go on about the atheist community but then I'd be straying way off topic lol.

[–]soundsituationI myself was once a gay 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

First legitimate criticism in this entire thread 👍 Thank you for making it. It reminds me of some of the more absurd things I've seen in the radfem community and definitely makes me rethink my previous comment about radical feminism not being an ideology.

In your experience are those beliefs about makeup, shaving and men's predatory nature actually foundational to radical feminism, or just a representation of its more extreme adherents? I'd assumed it was the latter since those comments usually seem to generate disagreement.

I actually made a controversial post that poked holes in their hypocrisy to where they called me heartless and a few other names lol. I wont post it here though, but I can DM you OP on that one haha.

Could you DM me this as well?