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[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I don't think court transcripts are available to the general public in the UK. You have to apply (and pay) for them and there's no guarantee they'll grant one to you.

[–]SailorMoon2020[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Do you know the website? The first website that pops up in Google, I attempted to type in the name of the perp's name but nothing came up. I'm unsure if it's the right website.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

[–]SailorMoon2020[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Lol, I was just about to do an update stating I found the website. Thanks, everyone was right. Must apply and pay. The website sort of implies murder cases which is handle by the Bristol Crown Court more than likely won't take my request. I do believe the trial was recorded due to one article that gave excerpts: birmingham.co.uk. We'll see.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's also likely that a local journalist was in the public gallery and got the snippets they wanted. I don't know how high profile this case was, but it wouldn't be inconceivable that the local rag would send someone to Bristol Crown Court to get the details, and then these are repeated by every other outlet.

[–]SailorMoon2020[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's also a good point. This case didn't receive a lot of attention. It is so unique but there's hardly attention of it. There are numerous articles but they're short and brief.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Very fascinating case. Both because is a woman behaving like a man,doing typical male case. And because is a black woman killing a white woman, something makes me believe if had been other way around, they would have specify the race.

[–]SailorMoon2020[S] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Hmmm, I'm not aware of the racial relationships in the U.K. to say why race wasn't mentioned. She appears to be biracially mixed and since she's from Jamaica and came to the U.K., it seems likely.

In America when white lesbians harm black people, race isn't mentioned. In fact the cases are often swept under the rug such as the white lesbian couple that drove their van off a cliff killing their adoptive biracial black kids whom they were also abusing(in which the authorities ignored even when numerous neighbors and teachers filed complaints).

I've read and heard of women violently raping other women but to kill, that is so unique.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Never heard of awoman raping another. Killing for rejection is such male thing. Weird the case didn't get more exposure even abroad.

I don't know, maybe just don't give much exposure to minority crimes, whether they're homosexual or racial minority. Like the trans who likked the lesbian couple and their son.

[–]SailorMoon2020[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, it depends on whether or not you search. Female on female sexual violence is rarely ever brought to the public. Also many countries don't recognize it as rape since there's a lack of penis. Nothing will come up if you search rape. If a woman is lucky enough to report it and the cops don't laugh at her, she'll get a sexual assault report. Most times, it's just an assault claim.

Trans women who committ violence usually get attention, the media(in America)often runs with it which is a surprise. So transwomen who rape and kill are often talked about.

When I was first looking into Gordon's case, at first people were saying she was trans. Even though she looks like your typical biracial woman to me. Once it slowly started to become apparent, it was a female, the conversations stopped.