Gay men are more privileged than asexuals.

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[–]Dromedary 32 insightful - 7 fun32 insightful - 6 fun33 insightful - 7 fun -  (11 children)

I'm increasingly convinced that a large chunk of the population doesn't have a job anymore, just stays home and creates incoherent memes and bad cartoons like this on their computer.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

A large proportion of the population are receiving welfare. In Ireland, you get more money from the government for not working than you do working for a minimum wage job. Especially during the lockdowns.

Honestly, I think welfare should exist only for people who can’t work because of disabilities.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

In Italy you don't get anything for not working.I'm amazed how others countries can afford paying people like that. But we're so in debt.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Italy has the right idea, though hopefully you get your debt sorted out. In Ireland, we are also in debt, but you can get on social welfare even before the pandemic just because you didn’t want to work for as long as you want. How do our taxpayers afford it? Well, by our government selling our country out to Brussels, the UN, Silicon Valley and other vultures of course.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Welfare more than minimum wage seems like paradise. In Italy welfare is called mom and dad ahahah

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In my opinion, charities and the help of neighbours and family are better than government welfare.

[–]Bright_paintingLoad, lesbian biologist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

In my country, you only get help from the government if you are actively applying and searching for a new job. (Unless you are on medical leave or something like it.) That way, people gets help but only during the period when they can't earn an income any other way.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ours is like that too.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

In Germany, social welfare (dole) lasts only for six months. Then you’re on your own. In Switzerland, you only get dole if you can’t work, and nobody can take care of you. If it’s a case that you’re just too lazy to work, and your family won’t fund your lifestyle, then you get the dole, but your name and address is going on a list that is displayed publicly in your town’s Main Street.

[–]Finnegan7921 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Damn, Swiss....don't they know that lazy-shaming causes so many self esteem issues leading to psychological problems and employment dysphoria ? It is literally violence.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Really? People on welfare are way below the poverty line over here, and ordinary people still think they're getting too much.

[–]insta 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You forget that lots of people are hired in racial, gender, sexual agitation.

These people's entire jobs entails making sure that all these things remain a problem for the rest of time to ensure their employment.

[–]julesburm1891 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

  1. What is the metric for any of this?
  2. Gay men are more privileged than lesbians and bi men and women? Can they explain why gay men are the biggest share of hate crimes for LGB and T people?
  3. Can someone please explain how a heterosexual man that goes by “they/them” pronouns has it so much worse than any woman?

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Who the fuck is deciding who is most oppressed?

[–]Criticallacitirc[S] 9 insightful - 16 fun9 insightful - 15 fun10 insightful - 16 fun -  (1 child)

The wheel! Never question the wheel! 👺

[–]justagaydude123 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Children, with no life experience.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Middle class, university educated white men, mostly.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Stupid people.

[–]insta 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

AWFULs are making it.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

LOL. Created by @ditchthelabel. Creates a diagram of identitarian labels.

So much wrong with this. Muslim is a higher axis of oppression than Jew. Somebody skipped over some significant moments in 20th century history. I guess that's how you end up with Nazi=Trump supporter.

And Black is a higher axis of oppression than Native American. I guess this creator thinks the entire world is like the U.S. Here in Canada, we never had institutionalized slavery or Jim Crow laws. We did have systemic human rights violations against Native Americans, culminating in the Sixties Scoop and the abusive residential school system. Critical race theory assumes that the social conditions of the U.S. are an intrinsic reality everywhere.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

British comedian David Baddiel recently wrote a book called Jews Don't Count exploring the phenomenon of Jews now basically being considered 'white' and therefore immune to hate crimes etc.

[–]kwallio 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not Jewish though I have Jewish relatives via my Dad's 2nd marriage and the rising antisemitism on the left worries me.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, and Asians were the 'white-adjacent model minority' until 5 minutes ago, and now everything is about anti-Asian hate crimes. Make it make sense.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Some people think fair-skinned Koreans can't be considered Asian because they're "not Asian enough".

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, I saw that on a list of books that the director Edgar Wright was recommending.

[–]insta 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Critical race theory assumes that the social conditions of the U.S. are an intrinsic reality everywhere.

Yupppp. Canadian progressives simply copy + paste American arguments into Canada even when they don't make sense. These people literally just echo talking points is exhausting.

[–]usehername 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

I hate oppression olympics but... Native over black? Really?

[–]julesburm1891 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This was clearly written by a person who’s never seen a reservation on tv let alone in real life.

[–]grammaroo 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

muslims over atheists. it seems you can easily ruin these people by just telling them they have a "privileged western perspective" since in all muslim majority countries, you're either imprisoned, killed or tortured for being an atheist. atheists are almost up there with gay men in the list of "most dangerous abominations" and this vile sasquatch put them up there with "christian" lol

[–]usehername 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

They're blind to what's going on in the West as well. Native people were literally genocided and continue to live tiny, shitty pieces of land with zero infrastructure. It's also legal for non-Tribal citizens to come on tribal land and commit crimes, since tribes can't legally try non-Tribal citizens, and the U.S. doesn't have jurisdiction (despite constantly overstepping their rights). Where are they getting their talking points?

[–]grammaroo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

i saw your conversation with a bi woman i've been arguing with and holy christ. The bisexual community has a lot of power but also has the power to cause a lot of damage.and then trying to strategically deflect blame.

There are a lot of bisexuals who identify as gay/lesbian because they dont want to "leave" the community and their internalized homophobia lead them to believe they were tainted to never explore their opposite sex attraction since it's so scary leaving a community you identified with, and she doesnt want to accept them as "true bisexuals", whatever the fuck that means. These "gays" and "lesbians" are furiously masturbating to the opposite sex but because of the way they've been raised, their interest is "sparked" by typically gender non conforming "flavours" of the opposite sex, which is now so common to lust after even by heterosexuals (typical straight women now lusting after "fem boys", which confuses the shit out of gay males), theyre damaging gays and lesbians because it validates conversion therapy rhetoric and she's so f*cking petty that she's been arguing with gays/lesbians and thinks she's playing a strategy of not wanting to "lose" to gays/lesbians being frustrated by bisexuals that she would rather destroy these confused bisexuals, torment them and gaslight and harm them JUST to spite gays/lesbians. Holy CHRIST for her to even exist in bisexual spaces must be a huge problem.

And she thinks she's at war with gays/lesbians as if theyre taking all bisexuals to the Hague Court to be tried for crimes against humanity and she must engage in a cover up to not be "scapegoated" so she built a narrative in her head that gays/lesbians can sort of be attracted to the opposite sex so all these people arent bi? So she's willing to attack her own fellow bisexuals and harm them by gaslighting them and brainwashing them to think theyre really just homosexuals because she thinks she'll be personally blamed for this whole mess.

She really is alien to gays and lesbians and it shows. They wouldnt tell her this to her face but if they even have a 1% ability to be attracted to the same sex in hostile climates, they would absolutely take it. And it's too offensive to say but making a gay man have sex with a woman is like beastiality or making him have sex with a car but we cant say these things because it's highly offensive. So she's one of those "im bi and i cant imagine not being bi" type of destructive people.

[–]usehername 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If you're reading this, Pat, hi.

Also, what I'm about to say is relevant to the post at hand because the discussion we're referencing relates to the wheel, where bi positioned as more oppressed than gay.

There are a lot of bisexuals who identify as gay/lesbian because they dont want to "leave" the community and their internalized homophobia lead them to believe they were tainted to never explore their opposite sex attraction since it's so scary leaving a community you identified with

Exactly. These types get defensive over their identity so acting like they're not part of the bi community isn't doing anyone any favors. The idea that someone could experiment with both sexes and not find themselves revolted and feeling raped after messing around with one of them means they're bi. I'm sick of people hand-waving bisexuality as "sexuality isn't rigid". If your sexuality isn't rigid you're biiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. If you can be "brainwashed" into not being gay anymore you were never gay, you're bi or fucking lying. Homosexuals can't just look at a little propaganda and suddenly they're getting aroused for the opposite sex! Bisexuals that lean far one direction (especially when they lean homosexual) are the worst when it comes to this misinformation.

So she's willing to attack her own fellow bisexuals and harm them by gaslighting them and brainwashing them to think theyre really just homosexuals because she thinks she'll be personally blamed for this whole mess.

That sums it up.

it validates conversion therapy rhetoric

Yep.

And it's too offensive to say but making a gay man have sex with a woman is like beastiality or making him have sex with a car but we cant say these things because it's highly offensive.

I once heard I gay man say "I prefer men to women like I prefer chocolate ice cream to a bear trap to the face".

Bonus:

Me: I'm glad you enjoy my perspective, but I'm not looking for any older internet friends. Thanks for the offer, though.

Pat: Lol go fuck yourself then, you ridiculous bitch! I'll remember from now on that you're parroting other people and know jack shit about the world 😉 Christ almighty, what an embarrassment.

[–]grammaroo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

i saw her run to the bisexual sub for refuge and every other bisexual trying to explain how unreasonable she was being. She just has conflicts with gays/lesbians while trying to push lots of vulnerable bisexuals under the bus and destroy/gaslight them just out of pettiness to "win" an argument against gays/lesbians.

She's literally pushing the "theyre not REEEEAAALL BISEXUALS because they lean more homosexual" yet bisexuals who use the "im 5% or 10% homosexual" card are running around rampaging into every space they can causing chaos and pretending to be persecuted by gays/lesbians because they hear the "you're not REALLY bi because you're not perfectly 50/50" as if thats the worst thing to say to them yet here she is pushing the same exact rhetoric on her fellow bisexuals.

and she genuinely doesnt get it. Saudi arabia, iran, all of asia. Homosexuals are immune to heterosexual propaganda and "life experiences". You can remove all traces of homosexuality in our culture and they'd still be homosexuals. Conversion therapy PROVED no matter what you do you cant convert homosexuals, you can only break them into suicide. why do you think theyre always so concerned with conversion therapy rhetoric. she's immune to this because it's just an "annoying" ride for her. Conversion therapy to bisexuals is like a smack across the face. or maybe a baseball bat across the face. to homosexuals, it's more like a bullet to the head.

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This isn't a flex but it was actually just me (and technically the one person who upvoted 2 of my comments) disagreeing. The rest were just telling her to chill. I brought up concerns and she said it was scapegoating and was upvoted.

She's literally pushing the "theyre not REEEEAAALL BISEXUALS because they lean more homosexual" yet bisexuals who use the "im 5% or 10% homosexual" card are running around rampaging into every space they can causing chaos and pretending to be persecuted by gays/lesbians because they hear the "you're not REALLY bi because you're not perfectly 50/50" as if thats the worst thing to say to them yet here she is pushing the same exact rhetoric on her fellow bisexuals.

Yep.

[–]grammaroo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

it's amazing to me how she so casually dismissed the whole concern of "gender fluididty" and how it affects civil rights. Our entire lives, decade after decade after decade for not just centuries but for millenia, when we werent busy being killed, we were busy being "converted" which just lead to psychological torture and suicide and when that wasnt happening, we were told to "shut up and find the right woman". Our entire recent civil rights history (which apparently she doesnt care for even when she said she's much older than you and "knows more and is more experienced", she apparently forgot the entire culture and legal case was "no special rights for gays/lesbians because it's a lifestyle choice and not a sexual orientation.

Our civil rights victory was piling up a mountain of dead bodies so high that it drove enough guilt within heterosexuals to finally understand that we're homosexuals and cant be "fluid". They genuinely saw us as heterosexuals with a disgusting homosexual perversion that needed to be fixed. that we "CHOSE" to be gay, meaning we're "fluid" people. We only got our civil rights when they realized we couldnt choose and that we're born gay. And she's trying to condescend to you but admits she cant even see the connection between gays/lesbians being homosexual and the whole "fluidity" thing.

And she's american. So can you imagine where the overwhelming majority of the world looks to the western world and allowing this "fluidity" meme to take hold. The gays/lesbians in the middle east, africa, asia, latin america where their civil rights movement hasnt begun would be beyond, beyond fucked. And when she brought up scapegoating...like...what? Gays are going to punish her? She's not afraid of gays/lesbians. she just wants to win an argument and willing to burn the entire LGB movement to do it.

[–]usehername 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah she's definitely out of touch. I was getting exasperated.

And she's trying to condescend to you but admits she cant even see the connection between gays/lesbians being homosexual and the whole "fluidity" thing.

It's the lack of empathy.

The gays/lesbians in the middle east, africa, asia, latin america where their civil rights movement hasnt begun would be beyond, beyond fucked.

Yep. It needs to be stamped out now. The U.S. affects world politics a lot more than most people realize.

And when she brought up scapegoating...like...what? Gays are going to punish her?

I don't fucking know bro.

Conversion therapy to bisexuals is like a smack across the face. or maybe a baseball bat across the face. to homosexuals, it's more like a bullet to the head.

I see you added this to your previous post. Yeah, it is harmful to bisexuals, but in the end, they are still able to not feel like a total fucking failure since they have opposite-sex attraction (of course, I hope they escape instead of believing in stupid ex-gay shit, but it is what it is compared to suicide for homosexuals). Yes, they're really fucked up, but it's just not quite as bad.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ibram X Kendi and Robin DiAngelo.

[–]usehername 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks, I'll check it out.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For perspective, Barney Frank was a congressman from MA. He was gay and an atheist. He came out as gay while I'm congress many years before he could come out as an atheist.

Now... He was kind of a piece of shit neoliberal shill for the banking industry... But... He was also smart and a very good politician. He felt safer being gay than being an atheist in Congress in the 2000s.

[–]hellonumpty 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

My only contact with asexuals has been on MOGAI tumblr when they'd frequently be like: ''tee-hee, at least we won't get AIDS!!" and just generally being homophobes.

I also think this privilege wheel is something the average person doesn't care about, at least, in depth anyway. What I'm about to say is kind of UK-centric but, in the local elections, Hartlepool turned it's back on labour and went tory for the first time in something like 50+ years. Some are saying that labour has now become the party of the middle class uni students obsessed with identity politics and is out of touch with what the average person wants and needs. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I know the issue is probably a bit more complex than just that, but I also think things like privilege wheels don't help when all people are trying to do is run food banks so people in their community are fed, you know?

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's certainly quite baffling when you think that many people in the Labour 'heartlands' who would have experienced Thatcherism are now voting for the Tories because they've become the party of the working class. Thatcher may have closed the mines, but Corbyn and Starmer have been telling the voters that they're racist, scummy 'gammons' who believe whatever the Sun tells them for five years now.

I think it centres around Brexit, but bullshit like privilege wheels certainly doesn't help. Keir Starmer is a remainer, and they stood a remainer in a constituency that voted leave by a large majority. Labour have been trying to overturn Brexit since the referendum happened, and their manifesto prior to the 2019 election said that they would organise a second referendum. That one would be final, I assume.

Whether you believe in Brexit or not, ignoring the wishes of a large proportion of your voter base on the political issue of the generation, and then telling those who disagree that they're basically bigoted pigs is just bad politics.

[–]fuck_reddit 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think you’ve hit on something interesting. I’ve noticed in the US that the democrat party seems to behave as if they get to tell their base what to do and not vice versa. It seems labour suffers from the same delusion.

[–]julesburm1891 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah. It’s a really similar situation. Democrats were the party of the working class. But they’ve insisted on spending the last decade telling their base what bad, privileged people they are while doing nothing to actually help them. It’s not really surprising that the working class has mostly switched allegiance to the Republican Party.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I heard about the by-election. It was in the news here in Ireland. I’m not a fan of the Tories, but goddamn, the Labour Party is just pathetic. Labour sees themselves as the party of the working class, yet they are pandering to upper middle class uni graduates.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Gay men are still targeted in America for religious conversion therapy ... not to mention the Pulse Shooting... who came up with the idea that gay men are privileged royalty im serious like where did it start and how is it so widespread?????

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pulse shooting turned out not to be targeted at gays. The media just ran with that because "minority hate crime"

The guy actually went to a different club first but it ended up being closed and they have records from his phone that he googled night clubs near him and just went to one near his original target.

[–]fuck_reddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

“Able-bodied, straight, ‘cis’ man, post-high school, atheist/christian, white, slim, rich” one of these is not like the others, one of these is 10,000 times more influential than any other. Also lmao imagine thinking an MD or JD confer the same level of “power” as an associates degree.

[–]julesburm1891 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The “atheist/Christian” thing made me laugh. OP clearly has zero concept of life outside America. I hear being a Christian in China or Iraq isn’t a super awesome experience. And I’m not really sure what all this power atheists supposedly have is. But, by golly, we are going to pretend that a literal quarter of the world’s population is the most oppressed—especially in America.

[–]grammaroo 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"muslims are the most oppressed over atheists" FAWK OFF. Atheists are gleefully murdered in so many countries. you can tell who made this garbage.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pretty sure Muslims ~are~ the oppressors in many places as well. Something something Charlie Hebdo...

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t hate asexuals, but I do hate people who are straight but call themselves asexual just so they can get away with shitting on homosexuals and then turn around and claim that they are progressive.

[–]Data_Doctor 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ugh!

As a black asexual woman with a hidden disability, I really cannot stand content like this.

ETA: In the US, at least, the only thing that asexuals have to deal with is being stereotyped as weirdos who are sexual repressed. We aren't seen as gross or dirty. We aren't seen as perverted. No one thinks we're going to hell in a hand basket. We're just pitied. Boo-freakin-hoo.

[–]kwallio 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Apparently trauma counts for nothing in the oppression olympiad. This actually kind of pisses me off, you really don't know anyone else's story and you can't make assumptions just by looking at someone. There is a blurb on the wheel that says that (sort of) but why say that if you aren't supposed to give the identities on the wheel more weight. The whole thing is so, so stupid.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Everything about this chart is confusing.

[–]grammaroo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

this is a game that lesbians have to stop encouraging. and lesbians on here, judging by the comments dont support this stupidity but we need to start policing our own kind for pushing this shit. Gay men, for some ridiculous reason, are seen as the "gatekeepers" to the "homosexual" community. The legal organizations (lambda legal, responsible for gay marriage, fighting christian legal battles) are almost exclusively gay. the lobbying groups used to be exclusively gay men. almost everything used to be exclusively run by the most successful of gay men. Lesbians had to use their energy (even though gay men disagreed and caused it caused tensions) to help invest their time and money into women causes which gay men saw as something heterosexuals could do. They now claim theyre the "most oppressed group" by calling lesbians "cis" so you know theyre coming for you next. And the person who made this chart was a narcissistic "asexual" straight girl. I go on their subreddits all the time. The PSYCHOTIC level of hatred asexual straight women have for gay men is off the charts. But their hatred is for them being "the center" of the gay community as "homosexuals", not because theyre gay

. Im in a city where a lesbian woman had an instagram business selling "LGBT" merchandise. A group of asexuals asked her to be "inclusive" and put an "a" for asexual on there and she didnt understand because she was an "old" lesbian and didnt care. They harassed her, doxxed her, got her instagram page taken down for "bigotry", and she was so freightened she literally shut her business down because she thought she basically activated some sort of stigma so strong that this behaviour was allowed to happen to her. The "leader" who pointed her out for harassment was a straight "asexual" woman. And she gave the smuggest "im sorry this happened to you, i hope you learn your lesson, we'll try and be more merciful next time with our power as we crush you" type of apology. She's old, she's a lesbian and most likely needed this business but was branded a bigot. Im gay. I was infuriated but WE GIVE THEM THIS FUCKING POWER by our "radical inclusion" bullshit. And yes, i was enraged but i also get angry at lesbians because they help create these cracks all the time. We need lesbians to start attacking other lesbians for doing this like the lesbians on here are doing now. And gay people need to learn lesbian talking points as well to represent lesbians when homophobia is directed towards them. This isnt exclusive to the stupidity of gays and lesbians fighting one another but i see it happening with black women who sabotage womanhood with their shitting on white women and then pretending to be completely clueless as to why things like "karen" blow up in their faces and come back to bite them in the ass since they have to deal with the sexism they celebrate against their "enemy", the white woman and they've been dethroned as victims with that infighting and theyre dismissed as "cis" now. Or bisexual women trying to form some sort of "man hating alliance" with lesbians because they try to elbow their way into homosexual politics/power and using that as a pretext to try and split up gays/lesbians, which lesbians only temporarily allowed but it completely destroyed a lot of their spaces and now theyre having to pick up the pieces and rebuild what little they have. Just look at the amount of defending lesbians have to do on twitter with their constant fighting with bisexual women. This is a long rant but "cis gay WHITE men" are the top targets of these people for a reason. Because they want to "dethrone" them in some imagined hierarchy in their heads. Some lesbians were stupid enough to think that meant they could be the biggest "stars" in the community but it blew up in their faces and it was meant for the TQ crowd.

Go on asexual subreddits. Im a gay man and know more about their hatred for lesbians than actual lesbians do. It seems barely any of you go on their subreddits. They appropriate lesbian rape statistics everytime i get into an argument with them. A white, heterosexual narcissistic "asexual" woman will claim she's somehow oppressed because "asexuals" in south africa receive corrective rape. She didnt know that im fully aware of "corrective rape" in multiple african countries so i pressed her on it and showed her statistics that it was actually lesbians they believed needed corrective raping and her response was "you dont know that theyre not asexual lesbians!". Anytime you speak to these people, they bring up corrective rape and they appropriate it from lesbian suffering and trauma they couldnt give less of a fuck about from halfway around the world happening to "asexual lesbians" when she's a straight "asexual" woman. And this wasnt a teenager but a grown woman bullying lesbian teens on twitter.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Intersectionalists are cancer. And we are partly to blame for their success. Hopefully more gay men and lesbians will grow backbones and stand up to these freaks.

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is just so idiotic. I feel safe being asexual in my country because people think of me as prude or waiting for the right one I'll have sex with after marriage, maybe there are occassional suspicions I am gay but it doesn't matter if our government basically calls gay people an ideology and don't allow them to marry or adopt children. My asexual ass isn't opressed at all. I am so tired of asexuals insisting how opressed they are. Spoiler alert: you aren't. You kids are just bored.

[–]RippoffOfLoveSStraight | Overuses quotation marks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're illustrating the oppression olympics as they see it. Incredible.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"intersex is a gender"