LGB ErasureSaying the quiet part loud: Gender ideologues and mainstream LGBT organisations are now being openly homophobic

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[–]usehername 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Ok, so your argument is that they're lying? Some of them definitely are, but plenty aren't. Either way, they're still claiming to be bisexual (though by a different name) so it involves us. Also you seem to be under the impression that they're all lying. I can tell you right now that's not true. I know people like this and I used to be one. Idk how old you are, but I'm Gen Z and this is common among bisexuals my age.

This situation happens all the time:

  1. Meet gay/lesbian person
  2. Get to know them
  3. Find out they experience some attraction to the opposite sex, but are usually effeminate/butch respectively and lean heavily towards the same sex, plus a lot of their identity is based on being gay/lesbian.
  4. Realize they are bi and a liar ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

You'll understand when you're older I guess. It explains a lot to find out you're college-aged.

Delusion and fear run deep. So does self-loathing.

[–]usehername 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Lol. Calling me delusional, fearful, and self-hating because you're too defensive to listen to what I'm saying? Sounds like you're projecting. As a college-aged person, I have more insight into the psyche of these people. If you've never met any Kinsey 5 bis who identify as gay/lesbian then good for you, but I have and so have many of the gay and lesbian people on this forum. Check lesbianbarbie's thread (top comment).

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

I think you're wrong. You live in a bubble and lack life experience. That's just how it is. You're reading a whole mythology into behavior that is easier to explain as a reaction to homophobia.

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm curious as to what bubble you think I live in? You might find it easier to explain it as homophobia, but just because it's easy doesn't make it right. There is no mythology. I am telling you the simple truth of how it happens. Many gays and lesbians are telling you the same thing, but you're just dismissing our experiences. Maybe they don't mean much to you because it's only gays and lesbians speaking out. No other bisexuals will talk about this because of their egos. You're brushing me off saying I'm young and dumb, but I'm also curious as to why you think older, seasoned gays and lesbians are agreeing with me here?

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

... and I think you're wrong. I think they are wrong too. I think I am right, at the least introducing things that need to be said.

University campuses are bubbles by design. It's not a bad thing, but knowing lots of bisexuals isn't a normal thing and most of those people are just trying on identities because they're young adults and that's part of growing up. Also not a bad thing.

[–]usehername 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't live on campus and have a life outside of it, but that's all I'll say so as not to reveal personal information. These bisexuals I'm talking about are not just people I've met in college, but through my whole life.

[–]usehername 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Then why does the rest of the thread agree with me?

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

They're wrong too, lol.

[–]usehername 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I want to know why you think they agree. Do you think they just all hate bi people or something?

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I can't read other people's minds, but I will try a little.

TL;DR: times have changed.

There are a lot of political changes in the last decade that have led up to this situation and we're in a readjustment period where we're figuring out the "new normal." Liberal homophobia, which is a recent development since I graduated from high school in the Bush era, seems to revolve less around punishing same-sex attraction (which is conservative homophobia) and more around punishing lack of hetero attraction.

Gay organizations are completely controlled by the left, academia too. The support system gays and lesbians reach out to when they come of age hates them and pushes them in myriad ways to make themselves available to the opposite sex in some way- pick their poison, but they have to conform somehow.

This is coming from straight liberals, they have drafted and brainwashed a lot of homosexuals. Bisexuals are a convenient tool in the arsenal, but as far as I can tell aren't making decisions and are being subjected to the same pressures. I live in a red state so I don't get exposed to much of this personally.

If I was a lesbian, I would find it heartbreaking to see other lesbians destroying themselves and attempting to destroy each other. If I was over 25-ish, I would also have come of age in a time when straight liberal people accepted and defended me, and their support would be something I counted as a given. I would not want to believe the destructive people were actually lesbians. Anyone who is not exclusively a lesbian is a bisexual, therefore everyone breaking my heart and killing my community is a bisexual and I don't have to see them as my own people. This also presents a solution- tell the bisexuals to leave lesbians alone!

I obviously don't think that would work, because I don't think that's the problem. The issue is that homophobia has evolved and adapted to the gay liberation movement. The same power structure is being maintained through new means.

[–]usehername 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Honestly, this narrative you thought up where it's all brainwashed/converted homosexuals driving this movement who are so deep in denial they have to blame bisexuals is ridiculous and totally backwards. It seems that you're the one "reading a whole mythology into behavior that is easier to explain", and feeling heartbroken seeing bisexuals wreck the LGB community. A homosexual can't be brainwashed into opposite-sex attraction. I already acknowledged that some homosexuals are lying when they say they would fuck a trans person, but the fact remains that there are a ton of bisexual people who call themselves gay or lesbian who genuinely would fuck a trans person (before genital surgery; I just have to specify since I was just reminded what the results look like). This is a cheap shot, but I checked your post history and I see that you're a conspiracy theorist so this sort of makes sense. Come to your senses. This isn't a personal attack.