LGB ErasureSaying the quiet part loud: Gender ideologues and mainstream LGBT organisations are now being openly homophobic

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[–]usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

It doesn't matter what they identify as, if they are attracted to both men and women they're bisexual.

I don't think the pressure is coming from bisexuals either.

If those activists aren't lying, they're bi.

When bisexuals are subject to this same pressure, we identify as straight because we can usually pull that off. It's the same pressure coming from the same place playing out in varying ways.

It's not the same pressure because these people fetishize the same-sex attraction. Without it, the appeal is gone. There's also the appeal of being the "exception".

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

I literally don't know what you're talking about. Did we read the same essay?

It's not the same pressure because these people fetishize the same-sex attraction. Without it, the appeal is gone. There's also the appeal of being the "exception".

I don't know where this is coming from, can you drop me a couple of links or give me examples? I'm so lost. I apparently am approaching this from a very, very different perspective.

[–]usehername 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

David Paisley is bi:

I'm attracted to men, including trans men.

He has attraction to men and women (trans men). That makes him bi. He also says:

I know plenty of gay women that support and include trans people.

Those women are attracted to women and men (trans people, though it's clear from the context he means trans women and enbies). That makes them bi.

Bisexual activists are saying they are homosexual and trying to modify the definition of homosexual so it means bisexual (though they have a different definition of "bisexual", which is why they don't identify as such).

You need only browse this page to find examples of bisexuals (and hets, but that's not what we're talking about) fetishizing same-sex attraction. Usually, these people are claiming to be gay or lesbian, but by their woke definition, gay and lesbian includes people of both sexes but different "genders". Whether or not these people actually feel attraction to both sexes and one "gender" (which is frequently the case, and is very likely the case with the activists I referred to earlier), they are describing bisexuality and claiming to be bisexual (despite using another word for it).

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

Yeah, nah. I'm not sold on this, I'm especially not taking that nutty actor's word as gospel. You're approaching this with a lot of suppositions about how people choose and express identities that I don't think are reality based.

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

If a person is attracted to men and women, they are bi.

If a person is attracted to "trans women" and women but identifies as a lesbian, they are bi.

If a person is attracted to "trans men" and men but identifies as gay, they are bi.

If a person is attracted to "AFAB enbies" and "AMAB enbies" but identifies as clownsexual, they are bi.

Need I go on? I'm the one taking the reality-based approach, while you're hung up on how the people identify.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

I think they're caving to peer pressure and deluding themselves. That's how people behave.

They get told, "find a way to be less gay," they find their ways.

[–]usehername 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

Ok, so your argument is that they're lying? Some of them definitely are, but plenty aren't. Either way, they're still claiming to be bisexual (though by a different name) so it involves us. Also you seem to be under the impression that they're all lying. I can tell you right now that's not true. I know people like this and I used to be one. Idk how old you are, but I'm Gen Z and this is common among bisexuals my age.

This situation happens all the time:

  1. Meet gay/lesbian person
  2. Get to know them
  3. Find out they experience some attraction to the opposite sex, but are usually effeminate/butch respectively and lean heavily towards the same sex, plus a lot of their identity is based on being gay/lesbian.
  4. Realize they are bi and a liar ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (25 children)

You'll understand when you're older I guess. It explains a lot to find out you're college-aged.

Delusion and fear run deep. So does self-loathing.

[–]usehername 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Lol. Calling me delusional, fearful, and self-hating because you're too defensive to listen to what I'm saying? Sounds like you're projecting. As a college-aged person, I have more insight into the psyche of these people. If you've never met any Kinsey 5 bis who identify as gay/lesbian then good for you, but I have and so have many of the gay and lesbian people on this forum. Check lesbianbarbie's thread (top comment).

[–]TiredTrendersSuper-gay 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nah fam, you're right. I've seen and even known a lot of Kinsey 5 bis myself who'd self ID as exclusively homosexual. K5 bi dudes in particular. Its not an isolated occurrence or "trend" by any means.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

I think you're wrong. You live in a bubble and lack life experience. That's just how it is. You're reading a whole mythology into behavior that is easier to explain as a reaction to homophobia.

[–]usehername 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

...After re-reading it looks like you weren't calling me those things, so my mistake. Still, you can't pretend what we're all talking about doesn't happen.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I always enjoy reading your comments and I have a lot of respect for you, you seem real, down to earth, and smart. You're rude as fuck, though. I sat here and took a lot of shit from you trying to get my point across. Let's be friends.