LGB ErasureSaying the quiet part loud: Gender ideologues and mainstream LGBT organisations are now being openly homophobic

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[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (35 children)

I'm not sure where bisexuals got brought up in the article, maybe we're just having a venting session.

The guy Noah mentioned by Linehan appears to be a lesbian transman, she doesn't have much info available outside of social media profiles.

Noah seems to want to pretend lesbians don’t exist. Why ? Because lesbians are living proof that same-sex attraction is real. And gender ideologues are doing everything in their power to pretend it’s not.

I wonder what her motivation might be 🙄

The actor appears to be a conflicted gay man rather than sincerely bisexual (or at least that's what Graham seems to think.) Not that that's a new thing.

Edit: I thought about it a little more. All three activists in the article at least to me appear to be homosexuals who have in some way prioritized hetero attraction over their own. I do not interpret that as being bisexuality- 'cause I'm me- but it can read that way. I think their motivations for doing this are fundamentally political. It comes from their political ideology and the desired power structure they want to create.

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (34 children)

I'm not sure where bisexuals got brought up in the article, maybe we're just having a venting session.

The narrative that's being pushed is: lesbians must be attracted to trans women. Translated from wokespeak to English: lesbians (all homosexuals really) must be bisexual (attracted to males and females)

All three activists in the article at least to me appear to be homosexuals who have in some way prioritized hetero attraction over their own.

If they're not lying, they're attracted to men and women and therefore bi.

I think their motivations for doing this are fundamentally political. It comes from their political ideology and the desired power structure they want to create.

Possibly, but more likely they're bi useful idiots.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (33 children)

Only one of the three activists identifies as bisexual in the article. It's actually none of them. He purports to be gay while being purportedly sexually attracted to transmen, whom he purports to be men.

I don't think the pressure is to be bisexual, I think the pressure is to be less gay and there's only one way to do that. I don't think the pressure is coming from bisexuals either.

When bisexuals are subject to this same pressure, we identify as straight because we can usually pull that off. It's the same pressure coming from the same place playing out in varying ways.

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

It doesn't matter what they identify as, if they are attracted to both men and women they're bisexual.

I don't think the pressure is coming from bisexuals either.

If those activists aren't lying, they're bi.

When bisexuals are subject to this same pressure, we identify as straight because we can usually pull that off. It's the same pressure coming from the same place playing out in varying ways.

It's not the same pressure because these people fetishize the same-sex attraction. Without it, the appeal is gone. There's also the appeal of being the "exception".

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

I literally don't know what you're talking about. Did we read the same essay?

It's not the same pressure because these people fetishize the same-sex attraction. Without it, the appeal is gone. There's also the appeal of being the "exception".

I don't know where this is coming from, can you drop me a couple of links or give me examples? I'm so lost. I apparently am approaching this from a very, very different perspective.

[–]usehername 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

David Paisley is bi:

I'm attracted to men, including trans men.

He has attraction to men and women (trans men). That makes him bi. He also says:

I know plenty of gay women that support and include trans people.

Those women are attracted to women and men (trans people, though it's clear from the context he means trans women and enbies). That makes them bi.

Bisexual activists are saying they are homosexual and trying to modify the definition of homosexual so it means bisexual (though they have a different definition of "bisexual", which is why they don't identify as such).

You need only browse this page to find examples of bisexuals (and hets, but that's not what we're talking about) fetishizing same-sex attraction. Usually, these people are claiming to be gay or lesbian, but by their woke definition, gay and lesbian includes people of both sexes but different "genders". Whether or not these people actually feel attraction to both sexes and one "gender" (which is frequently the case, and is very likely the case with the activists I referred to earlier), they are describing bisexuality and claiming to be bisexual (despite using another word for it).

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (29 children)

Yeah, nah. I'm not sold on this, I'm especially not taking that nutty actor's word as gospel. You're approaching this with a lot of suppositions about how people choose and express identities that I don't think are reality based.

[–]usehername 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

If a person is attracted to men and women, they are bi.

If a person is attracted to "trans women" and women but identifies as a lesbian, they are bi.

If a person is attracted to "trans men" and men but identifies as gay, they are bi.

If a person is attracted to "AFAB enbies" and "AMAB enbies" but identifies as clownsexual, they are bi.

Need I go on? I'm the one taking the reality-based approach, while you're hung up on how the people identify.

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

I think they're caving to peer pressure and deluding themselves. That's how people behave.

They get told, "find a way to be less gay," they find their ways.

[–]usehername 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

Ok, so your argument is that they're lying? Some of them definitely are, but plenty aren't. Either way, they're still claiming to be bisexual (though by a different name) so it involves us. Also you seem to be under the impression that they're all lying. I can tell you right now that's not true. I know people like this and I used to be one. Idk how old you are, but I'm Gen Z and this is common among bisexuals my age.

This situation happens all the time:

  1. Meet gay/lesbian person
  2. Get to know them
  3. Find out they experience some attraction to the opposite sex, but are usually effeminate/butch respectively and lean heavily towards the same sex, plus a lot of their identity is based on being gay/lesbian.
  4. Realize they are bi and a liar ¯_(ツ)_/¯