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[–]QueenBread 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Ellen Page is rich, adult, and famous. She wasn't "forced to transition". Women can make their own decisions, even when they're awful.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This seems to need to be explicitly stated, so: We weren't there and don't actually know what's going on with her, so repeating this statement actually doesn't make it more true. That's a rather futile tactic to take (and a very TRA tactic). Odd approach to take to dialogue on this particular sub, no?

Narcissistic abusers can reduce anyone to rubble including the rich and famous, and they love juicy targets. That is my point, which I am now repeating with more words attached so it's perfectly clear.

And not every rich, famous person is also psychologically resilient. I refer you to every performer who ever killed themselves in response to the radical reality shift forced upon them by stardom. Try having some empathy for people who are "fortunate" (in quotes, because fame has serious downsides as well sometimes) too, maybe?

Do you also ask "why did she stay" every time a woman doesn't leave her abuser? I bet not.

And that concludes my interest in this subthread.

[–]QueenBread 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Try having some empathy for people who are "fortunate" (in quotes, because fame has serious downsides as well sometimes)

I wanna be that "fortunate". I'll take the burden and the serious downsides of being filthy rich and world famous. It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think many of us would try to make that work, but it isn't for everyone. Which some find out the hard way.