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[–]lazy-summer-godSuper Gay[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You say we can AT LEAST accept them as men and women, but that itself has caused the current issues we are in?

No, it didn't and you know this well. They have been pusing progressive and homophobic propaganda onto everyone for years, claiming that gender is the deciding factor of sexual orientation. OP of that thread fell to the very romanticized idea of "giving a chance", "being open-minded" and "looking to broad his experiences". He was manipulated into uncomfortable position (and potentially dangerous) and now both him and that trans guy are suffering because of this = a perfect proof that this propaganda should never be allowed to reach young people's mind.

I won't argue with you that it didn't go too far – of course it did. But I can recognize where their right overleaps mine and calling someone their desired pronouns in the internet argument is realistically not that.

How do women sports and women's spaces remain exclusive for biological women, females, not men in wigs and skirts, if men in wigs and skirts are to be accepted as women? How exactly do you propose this kind of change to this world, where we are to accept all trans people as the gender they say they are, but also being able to reject and exclude them from spaces that are exclusively for cis men and women without ever being labeled as transphobic or anti-trans?

Well, stopping the current discourse in which they say that biological sex is basically worthless and gender is the way to go would be a great start. They are actively trying to erase sex: from all definitions, not just these about sexual orientations.

In the end, we did accept them, we did coddle them, we said they are completely valid, and we let them deny biology and we let them live in their delusion because '' they are harmless, I mean, what bad could happen '' and this is the result.

So we know better now and we have to be vigilant.

You are in this sub for that reason as well. And if you try to pull some '' it's just a loud minority and actual trans people don't agree with current trans ideology '' you are out of your damn mind.

Please, refrain from putting your own words into my mouth, especially when you're putting them between semi-quotation marks to look like you're quoting me. I never said that it's just a loud minority. I've said that trans people are 0.3% of entire population and they could never cause the mess that internet is right now just by themselves. There's a huge army of TRAs who play the game of policing others for power trips it provides.