LGB Erasureorwellian terms regarding conversion therapy

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[–]grammaroo[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

you misunderstood me. I'm saying they take the word, and the stigma of the word and completely inversed its meaning. I just needed to use women and blacks as specific examples. Conversion therapy is about helping gay kids "turn straight" (which doesnt happen and just leads to suicide) but now theyre trying an even older form of conversion therapy (transexualism).

And you're not aware of history. Transexualism is a very old method of "fixing" a problem, and the problem is homosexuality and "non traditional behaviour". Transexuality is a fix which is why in conservative societies that dont go full blown genocide against gays, transexuality is a "solution" for them. It's like a temporary problem until they can properly wipe out homosexuality for good. Liberals are just being kind, clueless and compassionate which means they let anybody into their community but it's not a liberal or progressive thing. It's just a conservative thing outside of jail or killing. I've seen plenty of tweets from transexuals saying, "my dad genuinely loves me now and would rather have a girl rather than a gay boy". When conservatives raise their IQ a bit, they'll adopt this as a proper "solution" to a problem. It gives them everything they want: acknowledgement that homosexuality is an inversion of some sort and that theyre assimilating into the preferred mold of human. the only problem is, when you try to target and destroy gay/lesbian kids with this ideology, for every 1 gay child you turn "transexual", you cant help but brainwash 9 other straight kids into this so the damage to what they think is "their kind" is massive and i suspect they never knew it would be like that. (even homosexuals didnt know straight people were susceptible to this stuff)

[–]latuspodSuper Straight 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So I think it would be fair to say that traditional gender roles are conservative in their nature. And I suspect that older transgender experience their gender dysphoria and chose to transition because of their failure to live up to those gender roles. That is not at all the whole story with the trans situation now though. I agree that it isn't a liberal or conservative thing, its a progressive thing that is both very illiberal and not conservative. It is a problem created out of the progressive left, specifically Queer theory, critical theory in general, and postmodernism. Conservatism isn't a boogeyman causing all the problems in the world.

The idea that a person can transition to a different gender or sex is itself progressive. The idea that if a boy likes girly things they might actually be a girl is a progressive idea based on conservative ideas about gender. The idea that a person is free to choose who they are is a liberal one.

[–]grammaroo[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

their dysphoria is being caused by conservatism and the reason for wanting to identify out of their sex is because of conservatism. All liberalism does is give them the space to express their trauama. Liberalism and queer theory just give them space. it doesnt induce the problem but lets them express it.

[–]latuspodSuper Straight 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You can say dysphoria is caused by conservatism. But the solution is all progressive and the solution is a complete disaster. A truly liberal solution would be people being free and accepting themselves and others as they are.

[–]grammaroo[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i think you're so genuinely confused and misguided if you thought some liberal ideology was causing transexuality. If some 13 year old girl was raped and traumatized because conservatives created the patriarchy and taught society she's nothing but a piece of meat but she went into a liberal society that just let her "explore" her true authentic self, she would be expressing her true identity and whats hiding inside...a trauamtized, highly sexually aroused, broken prostitute and liberals would set no limits to her self discovery. Progressives dont give a solution but just space. She is free. 100% free and accepting herself as who she is...someone who smears feces all over her face. She's broken. Thats not liberalism's fault. Im not saying it's a good thing but these people dont understand whats hiding inside them is just deep degenerate trauma.