LifestyleHow do you think you appear to others once you've disclosed that you're gay/lesbian/bi?

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[–]grammaroo 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

thank you for bringing up and mentioning social power. My husband is white and a doctor. 2 of his friends are frequently called to the supreme court and have an hourly rate i didnt even think seems sane and their dinner parties include appellate court judges. I love my husband but him and his friends seem oblivious, naive and since this is anonymous, very stupid when it comes to homophobia. Maybe because they live in the power but they cant see that if they didnt have the power and respect from their positions and heterosexuals trying to kiss their ass, their homophobic claws would come out. As long as gay people are able to provide a service or socially benefit people, then their homosexuality can be overlooked. And you can tell that heterosexuals can wield power any way they want and it'll be rationalized as "he has the power and can do whatever he wants with it" but if it's a gay/lesbian person, then "there's something wrong with the system" or "it's not right" or that power has to be wielded incredibly lightly. Wealthy gays and lesbians need to be manipulated into ending homophobia by using their power to oppress homophobes. My partner and i had an intense argument when he wanted to send me to go to dubai with him for a vacation and secretly thinks im being an SJW for not being able to enjoy a country where they would gladly kill my kind with a smile if they could get away with it. And im middle eastern. Again, i think our gay culture (true gay culture, not the drag queen garbage) heavily relies on making sure we dont pass on our experiences, hatred and tribalism to guard against homophobes because my husband and his friends dont see the homophobic claws coming for them and when they do, they wont be powerful, successful or have people desperately looking to network with them. They'll just end up being pitiful, broken weak losers. To even suggest going to a place like that for vacation and not see the problem to me is like a wealthy jew suggesting to go to nazi germany as they gladly accept his money and laugh behind his back while there are innocent jews crying, being humiliated, degraded and killed someone in his neighbourhood but hey, "PROGRESS! THEY'LL EVENTUALLY GET THERE!". UGH.

White gays and lesbians not sabotaging, attacking and exposing muslims and other communities weaker than theirs basically shocked gay/lesbian middle eastern people. Even straight atheists in the middle east dropped their jaws when they saw straight white atheists obsessing over the feelings of muslims when the atheists in the middle east were dreaming of some magical army of atheists from america coming to destroy and humiliate muslims in the middle east. But the american atheists arent cosmopolitan or worldly so they hyper focused on their christian enemies and if christians hated muslims, then heterosexual atheists were going to lick the foot of every muslim in protest. So many "liberals" arent even liberal and just seem so blind, self destructive and stupid.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

But the american atheists arent cosmopolitan or worldly so they hyper focused on their christian enemies and if christians hated muslims, then heterosexual atheists were going to lick the foot of every muslim in protest.

Many Western Atheists have extreme tunnel vision when it comes detecting/tolerating religious bigotry. Like how some people(usually the same people) are blind to racism espoused by non-whites. The tendency is similar to how countries only fight the ones right next to them yet make alliances with those all the way across the world.

[–]grammaroo 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

many western atheists are beyond fucking stupid because, and yes im being a massive fucking snob here, atheism usually required actual intelligence. You needed to get passed through your barbaric and primitive culture and then go through the western enlightenment culture. There were always 2 elements that atheists were worried about and envied. They envied the barbaric, MASSIVE horde of church zombies; borderline subhuman unthinking religious zombies that could create social change by mindlessly adhering to whatever simple mantras their ant brains could recite and then other atheists begging and pleading with the other faction not to try to recruit these people or "transform" them because the zombies who converted to atheism would be teaching US about THEIR ways and it turned atheism into a shit show community of incels and ex christian monkey people who didnt have a real problem with christianity, patriarchy, homophobia and sexism. They might as well have left because of the cheap food or the parking at churches were annoying.

There's an element of stupidity, narcissism or naivety when it comes to hatred, danger and evil with people who think theyre intelligent enough to be liberals. It reminds me of the massive flood of muslims into norway and sweden. The swedish liberals had this attitude of "SUUUURE, theyre missing over 2000 years of cultural evolution and see gays/lesbians as people to laugh at as you publicly stab them in the streets and women are closer to cattle than human BUT LOOK AT OUR VALUES! They will absolutely look up to us and want to emulate us! The only difference between liberals and conservatives is that conservatives are poor and they all secretly believe what we do except theyre too stupid and poor to know it!".......and then the shock on their faces, resentment and anger when the muslims from these barbaric places flooded into their country and wanted to teach THEM about their ways because OBVIOUSLY the swedish are such degenerate losers that they CLEARLY lost their way and thats why they have gay marriage and women are seen as equals. What a bunch of fucking idiots so many of these people are. And any objections were met with "BIGOT!"

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Liberals are really naive when it comes to immigrant. Thinking religious fundamentalists will suddendly change and accept modern values they consider evil, just because they changed places, it's beyond stupid. No,they will just keep their values, increase in numbers via immigration and higher birth rate and then when they get better numbers, increase their legal influence. It's called invasion, but with no force. The people invaded are giving permission to the invaders to destroy their culture and social progress, in the name of "we must to help the non. white people at any cost" mentality.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaclownfish is a clown or a fish? || Febfem 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Liberals are believing that male rapist/criminal will stop being violent when they self-declaring themselves as a woman, because "statistically women are making drastically less violent crimes", so nothing strange that they believe in this too.

[–]grammaroo 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

im getting the sense we need to "gatekeep" what it means to be a liberal but we have such a large group of coalitions that dont even belong within the liberal community and are just there to exploit the liberal principals and not contribute to them that we would collapse without this coalition. But there are way, waaay to many people who just think liberal = being nice to people and if you're nice to a bunch of hateful bigots, then surely they'd change their ways. Funny how these hysterical idiots understand that being nice to nazis isnt effective but they tell gays and women to shut up when it comes to groups of people whose homophobia would make the nazis blush. I wonder what the difference is. Could it be that gays and lesbians and most women are pushovers and these white liberals who hush us are afraid of black people so submit to not offending them but the homosexual community is expected to be "enlightened" and make space for psychotic homophobia because its a sign of poverty and we should respect them because they dont know any better.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Actually, liberals is wrong. I'm technically liberal too. I meant more like progressives intersectional type. The one who cares about identity then anything else. They got a pyramid of identity, and on this pyramid black people and muslims come before white men and women and gay people.So, according to this bs, we must to cater to their problems, even if this ends up totally damaging women and gays rights and interest. It's about identity, not principals. That's why dont' care if mass immigration from muslim country will end up damaging gays and women and in general freedom.