DiscussionThe young are regarded as the most tolerant generation. That's why results of this LGBTQ survey are 'alarming'(I'm willing too bet that the "LGB" aspect isn't the reason for the "plunge of acceptance".)

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[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

How do we know we LGB people are losing support? How do we know that only the TQ+ are losing the support and the TQ+ crowd just want to use us for ransom and drag us down with them? This is why I don’t trust USA Today.

To be fair, if it is true that we are facing a decline in acceptance, it’s because of the actions of a lot of gay, lesbian and bisexual people. Child drag queens, drag queen story hour, bake the cake lawsuits, pride parades, cancel culture, support for lockdowns, the fact that most LGB people support the TQ+ crowd, the fact that LGB neocons want a war with Iran and defend George W Bush... it’s not like we are blameless in all this.

[–]chazzstrong 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. As long as they continue lumping same-sex attracted individuals in with people who adopt make-believe genders, think we are 'assigned' our sex, and engage in child grooming, the whole group gets a bad wrap. That's why the 'droptheT' notion is so important.

[–]WhiteRose 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How do we know we LGB people are losing support? How do we know that only the TQ+ are losing the support and the TQ+ crowd just want to use us for ransom and drag us down with them?

Bingo. TRAs (and other aggressively woke people) are screwing things up for the rest of us.

[–]boypower 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How is supporting lockdowns losing acceptance for gay people?

[–]julesburm1891 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I like how this article tries to tie the decline in acceptance to “anti-trans” laws and social media not cracking down enough on “hate.” Pretty sure it’s TRAs making crazy demands, social media platforms cracking down on free speech, and the constant pressure to shove QuEeR culture everywhere that’s ticking off people.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's just more elite bullshit that refuses to believe people can make up their own minds about things. Having the 'wrong' opinion about something just means that social media wasn't censored enough, and we're all simpletons who uncritically believe everything we read on social media after all, aren't we?

[–]AugustiJade 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I peaked purely off of TW actions. I needed no anti-trans article, YT video, whatever - just dealing with them in-person was more than sufficient to peak me. I've never met such narcissistic entitled sociopaths in my entire life, and I come from an extremely religious background.

[–]QueenBread 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

KEEP IN MIND THIS IS ACTUALLY BEING USED AS AN EXCUSE TO SAY THAT TRANSPEOPLE ARE TOTALLY OPPRESSED AND WOMEN ARE THOSE WHO OPPRESS THEM THE MOST. Read between the lines. It is true there's been a decline in acceptance: I, for one, always had zero problems with transpeople until the rise of the trans agenda a year or so ago. But.... this article is clearly wondering "how could it be possible? And why it's mostly women? I can't figure it out, but it's definitely oppression!".

Thus validating the idiots who identify as lgbtqhshvsbcb+ to pretend they're oppressed.

And thus making people even less accepting of non-straight people.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hell, I'm a lesbian and I'm not comfortable with LGBT stuff either.

[–]barnarnasis this tv show my friend? 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Driving the dilution of acceptance are young women whose overall comfort levels plunged from 64% in 2017 to 52% in 2018, says the survey conducted by The Harris Poll on behalf of LGBTQ advocacy group GLAAD.

Shocking and unexpected /s

I do agree, though. If you look at the areas where the acceptance has gone down the most it makes way more sense when focusing on the TQ+. Also including LGB history in schools is a good goal, but that's probably not what they mean :/

[–]malloww 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, as far as I can tell LGBT history now means crediting Marsha P. Johnson with every advancement in gay rights ever, and calling George Eliot a man. No thanks.

[–]latuspodSuper Straight 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean look at the type of people who are representing LGBT people in the media. Curious if some of it is due to the prevalence of young people using tiktok for social media, having a video of a self identified queer screaming about people being bigots is a little more offputting than a keyboard warrior on Twitter.

I also think there would be a very different reaction to if questions were asked about LGB seperate from the TQ. I suspect it would be for my kids.

[–]our_team_is_winning 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A true survey would break it down by letter and include LGB people by letter. For example, they would survey lesbians, including by age group, and ask how they feel about the T.

You won't get honest answers from young people anyway because they know damn well they'll be called names or worse if they dare say they don't support the T. And there's no option not to support the T if you word it as "LGBTQ+"

Did you see Shear Avory, a non-binary transgender (how the hell does that work?) sitting in front of the camera explaining how "they" fight off suicidal thoughts? Is invading women's spaces a part of "their" approach?

[–]malloww 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The FBI released statistics in November showing a 17% increase in overall hate crimes in 2017. Of 7,175 reported crimes, more than 1,200 were based on sexual orientation or gender identity bias.

The transgender community has been especially hard hit. In 2018, there were at least 26 deaths of transgender individuals in the U.S. because of violence, mostly black transgender women, according to the Human Rights Campaign, which has tracked 10 deaths so far this year.

This is the kind of disingenuous crap that's leading to reduced acceptance in the first place! Hand wringing about how the poor trans are so much more oppressed, but when you check the source they link it contradicts their own argument - 15.8% of bias crimes target sexual orientation, and 1.6% target gender identity. Best numbers I can find put the LGBT population at about 4-5%, with T being 0.6-1%.

Even if you assume that all people saying they're LGBT do in fact experience homosexual attraction (which seems like a stretch given how over represented transbians and gaydens seem to be), there should only be about 8.5 LGB people for every T. Yet there are 10x bias crimes for sexual orientation than gender identity. That means people are disproportionately targeted for sexual orientation, not gender identity. More realistically there's probably somewhere in the range of 4-6 LGB for every T, in which case people are targeted twice as often for sexual orientation per capita.

But no, we can't acknowledge the truth because that might not frame trans people as the most victim-y victims of all time. Instead we have to bemoan the poor trans women, while calling out young Karens who have mysteriously become homophobes, and ignore that their sudden change of heart probably involves aggressive nonbinary and trans "queers" who are mostly heterosexual being insufferable dicks in younger social circles with no pushback allowed.

[–]BEB 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, young "Karens" are the ones seeing boys take their sporting trophies and pushing their way into girls' locker rooms, so they're seeing more than young trans-identified males just being "insufferable dicks in younger social circles" and they're not happy.

[–]fuck_reddit 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Im a gay man, but if i was asked if i was comfortable with an “LGBTQ” doctor, I’d say no. I don’t trust them to tell me the truth or actually care about my medical issues.