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[–]ThrowMeAway2879 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

It's the utter surprise when being confronted with a subreddit which is not carefully cleaned and purified of anything that might 'offend' current trans sensibilities.

Take /askgaymen for example: You are still allowed to say you wouldn't have sex with a trans man. You are even allowed to say that you would never have sex with a trans man. But you are not allowed to say anything that invalidates a trans man's identity or would imply that he isn't a real boy.

"I would never sleep with a trans man because I am exclusively same-sex attracted." => Begrudgingly tolerated, because they haven't figured out how to ban it yet

"I would never sleep with a trans man because I am gay." => Deleted/banhammered, because it implies FTMs are not men

And now these people, who have only visited subs that enforce this sophistry to the detriment of actual gay people, come into a sub where it is completely acceptable to say that you won't sleep with trans men because they are not men. Imagine the shock!

If you follow an argument on a sub thread long enough, you'll often see some variant of this exchange:

[Gay man]: "No, I am not going to sleep with a trans man, because he is not a biological man."

[TRA]: "So, what you are saying is that you don't think a trans man is a real man?" (translation: 'Haha, now I got you!')

[Gay man]: "Yes, that is exactly what I am saying."

[TRA]: surprised Pikachu face

They simply aren't equipped (anymore) to handle this. They are accustomed to having the other person banned if he or she says they don't really consider TWAW or TMAM to be statements of truth.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 12 insightful - 9 fun12 insightful - 8 fun13 insightful - 9 fun -  (4 children)

There is a thread on Ovarit going right now of a TRA posted something like "Im starting to think terfs think that transwomen are just cis men in a dress" and every comment in that thread is like yes, that is exactly what we think.

[–]AugustiJade 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I was under the impression that OvarIt was meant to be a radfem platform.. Is it not?

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's a platform for women created by radfems but a lot of women there are not radfem. However everyone can join in as long as they are respectful and understanding of the fact that its a womans space we dont tolerate any male entitled bullshit There are a few men on there and a few transpeople who are respectful.

[–]ukrdude10 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I wish there was an equivalent to r/GenderCriticalGuys still in existence somewhere. hmm

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You could make one here on saidit?

[–]JulienMayfair[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Both r/AskGayMen and r/AskGayBrosOver30 have major TRA mods. The AGB>30 mod from Sweden is extremely controlling on pretty much every topic.