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[–]just_lesbian_things 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

No shit.

Then why bring up their nationality in a conversation about race?

no shit

Then why bring up the language they speak in a conversation about race?

I don't know.

But you know the Korean half?

None of your business?

Lol is it white? You can say white, you know? If you can say Korean, Mexican, and Blackfoot, you can say European white. Your defensiveness is not very in-line with your assertion that you "really don't give a shit". Why are you so pissed if it doesn't matter?

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    [–]just_lesbian_things 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

    What would you prefer I say instead?

    Mestizo? Does she even consider herself to be non-white? Why are you trotting her out as an example of an exotic ethnicity if you don't know what her background is?

    Does that clear it up for you?

    No, I'm wondering why you're skirting around this topic using weird euphemisms and shit.

    I was able to gather from these subtle clues that

    What did you think she was before? Lmao. Were you able to gather "subtle clues" about her other half? Or does it remain a total mystery to this day?

    Because you are being unnecessarily pedantic and nitpicking at my language

    Why are you skirting around topics?

    What point are you trying to make exactly?

    You're treating whiteness as a default and exotifying and othering non-whiteness. If you really saw everyone the same way, why do you have foreign references ("Spanish speaking", "Mexican", "Korean") for non-whiteness while you have no problem describing "red hair, blue eyes, and freckles", "white as the driven snow" on a white kid? What's your wife's other 7/8? If it's ALL THE SAME to you, why do you only point out 1/8 and get offended when I ask about the rest?

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      [–]just_lesbian_things 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

      you can't tell someone's ethnic background just by looking at them

      But you totally can and you totally do. It's how you know people are the wedding weren't white mexicans, despite none of them telling you about their background. Stop playing dumb and own up.

      [–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

      Back off lady we were speaking respectfully. Nobody asked you to come and derail the conversation. Go feel important somewhere else unless you have anything to add besides policing a totally harmless comment.

      [–]just_lesbian_things 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

      You're the only one policing here. You got something actually meaningful to add besides the fact that you don't like my opinion?

      How about this, I'll respond to your comment too.

      9/10 that color is brown and yet call someone colored...oh no he didn't.

      First of all, words have meaning and connotations. In spanish "negro" is just a color, in english it's not. You can describe someone as "a person of color", you can even describe them as brown or black but "colored" has a negative historical connotation and so we don't use it. It's really not rocket science.

      There's nothing wrong with describing someone as non-white. In this case /u/book_hoarder does it anyway in a stupid, round-a-bout way despite not actually knowing the ethnic background of any of the people at the wedding in question. It would honestly be less idiotic if she just said they were "people of color" instead of trying to allude to it by describing them as "Mexicans" or "spanish speakers".

      You can point out someone is not white, it's not racist. You can't call someone "colored" because it has racist undertones due to its historical connotations. Are you following so far?

      we are all colors if you want to get right down to it.

      We are not "all colors if you get right down to it". Racism is real and being cOloRbLInD isn't an adequate response to it. Grow the fuck up and stop pussy footing around the issue. White supremacy is real, and it isn't any less real just because you're afraid to address it. Spending your time making sure everyone knows how not racist you are isn't going to make racism go away. And no, pointing out/acknowledging racism doesn't make me "the real racist".

      [–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

      Fuck you, nobody called you racist you just read way too much into what we were saying while missing the whole fucking point. We all use generalizations and I said I get the distinction between people of color and colored people so you are just explaining shit to us we already know.

      We ARE all colors you just got done telling me you can't tell what someone is by looking at them. Which one is it? Stupid bitch.

      [–]censorshipment 2 insightful - 8 fun2 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

      Go awf!!

      [–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Worried about getting banned then I remembered I wasn't on reddit 😉

      [–]just_lesbian_things 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      We ARE all colors you just got done telling me you can't tell what someone is by looking at them

      Gotta work on that reading comprehension, buddy. I said you can tell someone is not white by looking, and you might as well fucking own up to it instead of skirting around the topic by calling people "Mexican" and "Spanish speaking".

      Saying "we are all colors!" is the race equivalent of spewing "gender is a spectrum!". It's not. It's a hierarchy, with men at the top and women at the bottom. We are not "all colors"; there's a hierarchy of treatment with people being treated better near the top and worse near the bottom. This is exactly the sort of stupid, vapid soundbite liberals get off on. Refusing to acknowledge this societal injustice doesn't make it go away any more than a male trans can end sexism by identifying as a woman and claiming to have never experienced it.

      I said I get the distinction between people of color and colored people so

      "Noooo, I was just pretending to be a dumb cunt".

      [–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      You would know about dumb cunts.

      Can't you just admit you are a know it all and we still don't give a fuck what you think.

      Fuck off you (probably) white bitch.

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