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Can a bisexual woman please explain this to us so we get it?

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[–]NutterButterFlutterStill waving into the void[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Nice b8 m8.

What do bisexuals have to do with fujoshis, and why would bisexuals have insight into a heterosexuals brain more than anyone else?

Normal straight men dont imagine themselves to be lesbians

I see you've missed how our lesbian sisters are being attacked and erased by AGPs.

[–]censorshipment 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Lesbian porn is almost always at the top of the list or always is and will be in straight guy porn sites.

According to PornHub stats, women watch "lesbian" porn far more than men do... and they say it's predominantly straight women who are watching it. Straight women have been asked why they enjoy "lesbian" porn so much, and they say because it focuses on female pleasure.

https://www.health.com/sex/why-women-watch-lesbian-porn

https://www.pornhub.com/insights/2019-year-in-review

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Not a bi woman but having seen and interacted with a lot of fujoshi I think I can explain:

They like it because they can project into the "feminine" men (whether that is literal GNCness or sexual "femininity" aka submission and/or being the "bottom") but at the same time, they are detached, so maybe some feel that there's not as much of an imbalance as heterosexual relationships, or they enjoy it as a "spectator" and not a self insert/being reminded of themselves. (Although a lot of gay content emulates heterosexual sexism and has "the woman of the relationship", one designated guy to be inferior and treated badly, so, I don't understand that viewpoint.)

For some it may also be still a little taboo and thus exciting, and/or online social media and communities viewing being gay as "cool" and straight as "boring" or even "oppressive", so they may turn to gay content in order to feel like they're still "cool" or interesting and not shunned by their peers. That is the main reason, i think. If modern media and the popular view didn't see homosexuality as cool, entertaining, "sassy," "brave" etc this wouldn't be as much of a thing.

[–]exponent2[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

im just confused because fundamentally, at their core, non lesbians are homophobic to the core in every dimension of their personality with their sexual tastes. Straight and bi women dont direct homophobia towards gay people as straight men do. Straight/bi women direct their homophobia towards their love interests because they have a fantasy of a super masculine, domineering guy and they have a sneering, hateful disgust of the slightest femininity within any type of man (especially their romantic partners) ...but then they run along to furiously masturbate to and fetishize feminine gay men? I just thought them indulging in this garbage would have made them less homophobic but apparently it has no effect on them? Theyre hiding something and not really explaining it and i guess its too awkward for them to say.

Straight men indulge in lesbian porn but the dynamic fits their homophobia and sexism perfectly in the way it manifests itself.

[–]germinare 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Can I just say I think it’s really interesting that you group “feminine” in the same category as “weak” and “less than”?

It’s also really interesting how you think bimbo porn is totally understandable, but a soft male romance being sexy is super weird and impossible to comprehend.

It’s really not complicated. I’m not even into it, but the appeal is obvious. Two of something you like is better than one. Maybe they also like, you know, an actual storyline and romance to go with it. Seems pretty simple.

Maybe the gap is your own internalized homophobia and misogyny 🤷‍♀️

[–]exponent2[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

i dont agree with it and im guessing it's awkward for you to get into, since it's humiliating for a straight man to confess his misogyny and homophobia, but i can understand how a straight man's misogyny and homophobia can arouse him.

You're deflecting and everyone here knows it. Bimbo porn is completely understandable to me because the link from misogyny and seeing lesbians as not even lesbians but 2 straight bimbo play things lines up perfectly.

But most women are still homophobic and its rarely talked about. And i dont group feminine as "weak"..again, you're deflecting. Im saying thats how a lot of them think. Theyre incredibly sensitive to any signs of femininity within straight men and regulate them with homophobia. So how can they find specifically gay men arousing? How do they even reconcile the 2 since it doesnt make any sense. And yes, it's really complicated but it requires a lot of analysis which no one has ever really done. Your answer is as obtuse and obstructive as a straight man saying: "it's really not complicated. im a guy and i like women...so why not 2 women". It's way more complicated than that and the dehumanization shows. I just dont see how they can reconcile their contradicting sexual interests with their homophobia but i guess i guess it's cognitive dissonance since straight men can be very homophobic and sexist towards lesbian women and run home to masturbate to 2 lesbians in a porn clip.

[–]germinare 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Dude, I’m getting some weird fetish vibes out of your post. I dunno what you’re spankin’ to on this question, but I’m out. Yikes. 😂

[–]exponent2[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

why are you being so childish and immature? Do you accuse lesbians of "getting off" trying to understand why straight men fetishize them to such an extreme? You've left 2 comments now and theyre an attempt to derail a conversation. And it's interesting how you feel so comfortable centering everything around yourself with your homophobia...which like i commented before, runs VERY deep within women but they give themselves permission as "victims" to perpetuate it.

And notice your other comment? Inferring there's misogyny if someone perceives femininity as "weak" within a gay male? Again, centering it around yourself as if femininity someone originates within women and somehow it flows from you and you're giving it on loan to gay men? lol Do you honestly not see how preposterous you are? Everytime a bisexual enters a homosexual space, it's as if theyre pure heterosexuals with their psychology and are missing about 700 years of cultural evolution.

You didnt even attempt to answer the question. And you feel attacked by that question and are attempting to deflect. You somehow feel comfortable and entitled, assuming you'll be accommodated and not called out for trying to sabotage a thread and answering questions like a straight man would: "i dont know...i guess 2 is better than 1...hahahahah" <-- i guess your psychological levels of maturity are that of a narcissistic straight teenage boy. There are no straight men here to enable or indulge your self centeredness so, how exactly do you think this is a good look on you?

In a feminist circle, the question would be answered like this: "straight men dont acknowledge lesbian sexuality. theyre homophobic and dont even respect women. they find it arousing because they see them as 2 straight women being bimbos. they dont see them as human so thats why they can fetishize them"...and then go into a deeper analysis.

And what did you think you could do? "hahaha...2 is better than 1! ahha dont be weird my bro!"

[–]Franklintheturtle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A lot of these people are in anime fandoms, where there aren't many girl characters and the girl characters aren't usually written the greatest, so the main character and his best friend, for example, can/usually do have a closer relationship onscreen than the main character and the female love interest so they are shipped together. it's two hot dudes at once, so they like it.

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are women who are disgusted by feminine/gay men, there are women who are turned on by feminine/ gay men. It also allows you to be a voyeur. You get to see what you want (sexy men having sexy sex) without you yourself being involved/looked at/the focus. Idk

[–]shveya 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can only guess, tbh. They remind me of the girls I met all through my teens, starting as early as 12, who were really "into" gay men. Some of these girls would even chat them up and follow them around at parties. Some would just become big fan girls to gay male celebrities. I kind of view fujoshis as the new generation of this kind of girl.

[–]exponent2[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think people are misunderstanding the nature of my question. What makes them fetishize and get off it so much that they want to slice their breasts off and turn gay and then turn into psychotic homophobes? How does that even begin?

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's an extreme form of peer pressure. They want to fit in, and then never grow out of it like most people do.

[–]exponent2[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think thats insane and thats not true. No one slices off their tits because of "peer pressure" or to "fit in". Thats as ridiculous as saying homosexuality is peer pressure. And we've heard that from christians.

[–]fuck_reddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Then why is risk of developing gender dysphoria in teenage girls highly dependent on another friend having developed gender dysphoria?

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not to mention I don't think I've ever heard of entire groups of male teenage friends spontaneously becoming trans/non-binary within a short amount of time, but this seems to happen with girls?

[–]exponent2[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i think heterosexuals are a very complicated people who arent allowed to explore their identity because one is given to them. And there's no way out for them except by going into this "gay identity".

Gays were always seen as a crazy joke when we were allowed to be ourselves because you can be masculine, feminine or anything in between and our community mitigates and fixes the need for transexualism. But lets not forget that maybe around 80% of gay children were literally walking around genuinely thinking they were girls trapped inside a guy's body and then slowly got over it. Heterosexualism as an ideology greatly damages gay and lesbian children. Maybe it damages heterosexuals as well? So many gays and lesbians are psychologically destroyed if they cant figure out that their gender DOESNT have to match their sex and that theyre not "copying" the other sex...that theyre genuinely just naturally feminine or masculine. We're trapped because straight men and straight women are assholes who think they've copyrighted femininity and masculinity and you could see the sneers they have towards gays and lesbians: "you're copying us because femininity flows from women to gay men (which isnt really true) and then we slowly find out that straight men have feminine traits and straight women have masculine traits. Again, gays and lesbians have to deal with a lot of garbage from heterosexuals and bisexual people and the smartest thing we did was just completely disrespect and ignore them until they finally repented and fixed their ways....but we built an entire community and identity thats a protective bubble against their ideology. It seems it destroys them in many ways as well. And just like how gay kids end up wanting to chop their dicks off when theyre truly damaged and cant seem to even conceptualize that theyre a feminine gay kid because theyre so brainwashed..maybe straight women cant seem to figure out there's more than one way to be a woman so the only option is to identify as gay?