LGB HistoryGay Liberation Front demands 1970. Can anyone explain to me how current TRA demands are in any way analogous to these, as we keep being told?

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[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Notice that everything here is basically "Allow homosexuals to do with each other what heterosexuals do." They didn't demand special treatment. Nowhere did they ask that people do anything extra. If anything, this whole list says "stop doing things that are bad!" and does not ask for any action to be taken except to stop the bad actions.

This entire list is "treat us as regular humans in our normal interactions and don't pry into our mutually consentual private lives"

But that isn't what tras want. They want special treatment in normal interactions and are demanding sex from others. Gays never said that straight men ought to have sex with other men. Lesbians never said that straight women ought to have sex with other women. But tras are demanding we have sex with them. They are demanding that we treat them differently from normal people in our day to day lives and that they enjoy special privileges, such as free and hastle-free plastic surgery in a world where normal, life saving surgery is very rarely both free and hastle-free.

This isn't like any previous civil rights movement because it isn't a civil rights movement. No one has a right to demand sex, no one has a right to get free plastic surgery, no one has a right to demand that society bend to their will because it makes them feel sad. So why should tras?

[–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Regarding point two: trans demands activists have already showed us what their idea of "normalizing" gender issues looks like, it's not the same! They formed a whole-ass subculture around "cracking" people, they have protocols for getting black market hormones to minors, they prey on minors and the mentally ill. When have GLB people done ANYTHING like that??? I wish that we taught people that it's normal to feel insecure or doubtful about your self-expression and "fitting in" with other boys/girls.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The black market hormones and entire forums dedicated to encouraging people to self medicate are especially fucked up.

[–]plenty_water 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's really like straight people have observed the style that gay people have formed and just want to emulate it? I'm like so fucking confused. I can't believe or understand how we've reached this point. This was a perfectly healthy woman who probably spent way too much time on tumblr and twitter, convinced herself she's a gay man, and...I guess..that's it. Idfk. What the fuck. And honestly, I know this is trite and so overused, but this shit is actually so fucking offensive. Being a homosexual is a physiological reality rooted in biology. It has nothing to do with emulation or how one dresses. This person is fucked.

[–]reluctant_commenter 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wasn't expecting that to be so wholesome. :) It's simple: equal treatment. Not, "we're superior to you" (TRAs' claim about transgenderism and their homophobic claim about same-sex attraction), but, we are equally as good and worthy of rights as are heterosexual humans.

[–]Uranian[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, same as it ever was! These are the kinds of demands you get from a liberation movement; basically "leave us alone". TRA demands, by contrast, are "let us tell you what to think and say"

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What did the F stand for in the logo at the bottom of that pic?