Transing ChildrenThe truth about 'trans kids' is that they're the victims of socially legitimated Munchausen's-By-Proxy. This is truly horrific.

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[–]sleepless-dreamer 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Jesus Christ, what a clusterfuck. I can't even begin to imagine how this will affect these kids mentally when they're adults.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Affirmation illusion breaks down as brain matures > Realization that they can't actually change sex > Depression > Suicide > Trans suicide stat goes up > More misplaced fear of the consequences of not transing early enough and more oppression currency > More trans "rights" > More kids transing > More Affirmation

Cycle repeats and feeds itself. Some stronger or luckier people manage to break out of it, but they are attacked by Transivists for betrayal and not being a real trans etc. Cult.

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 28 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I don't know why this is the only thing we listen to kids about... This is the age where make believe is important but this is damaging. All I hear from these assholes is "my kid fit this gender stereotype so they are trans."

Makes me fucking sick.

If this crap was around at this level when I was growing up I would have been made to be a boy rather than embrace being a girl with different interests.

We do exist and even live happy lives if you just leave our genitals alone.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Good point. With their logic, every kid with an imaginary friend is schizophrenic.

You know what, they'd probably want that too.

Edit: added a bit.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I can almost hear the sound of thousands of corrupt doctors collectively rubbing their hands together, ready to prescribe an expensive-as-fuck medication to "fix" these "poor delusional kids". And it makes me sick.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You mean like that one South Park episode where Butters was treated for multiple personality disorder because he played in the yard with "personas" like Detective Butters and Truck Driver Butters?

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

The road to hell really is paved with good intentions. These parents are literally driving their gender non-conforming children over a cliff. This is erasure of perfectly normal children who are a bit weird and will grow up to likely be perfectly healthy lesbian girls and gay boys. The trans community has ruined the lives of children.

[–]deliciousdogfoodmy name isnt a puppyplay reference i swear 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

These aren't good intentions. These are narcissists who view their children as accessories, and gender identities as cool stickers and keychains to attach to them.

If they really cared about their children first and foremost, they wouldn't be parading them around in their little clubs - they'd be speaking to a qualified professional. (not that we can trust professionals not to reinforce this bullshit anymore, but the point stands for this context.)

[–]BEB 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

In my area, especially in wealthy private schools, there's at least one or two "trans kids" per grade. The mothers (mostly it's the mothers driving this)) are the insufferable, smug, attention-seeking types. Poor kids.

[–]SkinnyVanilla 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Hmmm and none of them are the least bit curious why 10% of the class has an extremely rare condition?

[–]BEB 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The good news is that this fad is going to be over soon, at least for the kids. Remember the Tide Pod eating?

Let's hope the mothers let go too.

That being said, the gender lobby has taken over huge swathes of the US educational system, including the largest teachers' union, and are indoctrinating pre-kindergartens on up into gender ideology.

So if you care about your child, find out what they're being taught, and push back vigorously if you disagree.

[–]Uranian[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I wish I had your confidence that this fad will go soon, but sadly, at least here in the UK, the forces promoting it remain in a position of power having captured nearly every institution with their ideological nonsense. Kids are being confused about gender from a very young age and positive stories about transition continue to be pushed here, there and everywhere.

[–]BEB 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But people have common sense. The gender lobby did an amazing job of stealthily propagandizing the public, both in the US and UK, softening us up with entertainment normalizing the "born in the wrong body" narrative and sympathetic media pieces.

The gender lobby also started using the existence of intersex, and scientists, academics and institutions they literally bought, to gaslight us into believing the lie that biological sex wasn't dimorphic in humans, etc.

And of course, there was the T's hijacking of gay organizations starting in the 1990s, conflating acceptance of gays to acceptance that they are of the biological sex they claim they are and so deserve entry into sex-segregated spaces, sports, etc.

But now people are waking up, as gender ideology impacts their own lives, and the fact that feminists and gay men are speaking out gives the general public the cover to speak out too.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I really, really don't like the implication that being GNC as a kid means someone's going to turn out homosexual.

It's creepy to discuss the sexuality of kids, not to mention rather sexist (and possibly homophobic) to insist that gay males are inherently feminine and that lesbians are inherently masculine.

Let's not do that.

[–]usehername 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I also resent this claim. The idea that most women are just "naturally feminine" and the other implications of that just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Gender conformity was shoved down my throat as a child, not just from family, but also outside influences, and it's the same for everyone I know. Not to mention: "usually it’s only children who present significant sex-atypical behaviors—such as those with gender identity disorder—that are brought into clinics and whose cases are made available to researchers." In these studies, it's not specified whether these children transitioned or not. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/is-your-child-a-prehomosexual-forecasting-adult-sexual-orientation/

People with the paraphilias autogynephilia and autoandrophilia can develop gender dysphoria as a result (this is actually true, the rest is my own speculation as well as the experiences of AGPs and AAPs). It makes sense that gender dysphoria could contribute to the development of AGP and AAP, because such fantasies "affirm" the person's gender identity. The person will continue "affirming" themselves (jerking off to fantasies where they are their desired sex) and condition themselves to be dysphoric. Basically, they will come to desire more characteristics of the opposite sex so their real life will be more like their fantasies. According to AGPs (yes, it's anecdotal), these desires persist even when they are no longer sexual. Now, in the "self-affirmation process," people will begin to develop a "pseudo-same-sex-attraction" where they aren't attracted to people of the same sex, but imagine themselves engaging in the same-sex in their fantasies, or actually engage in homosexual sex, because they see the other person as a tool to make them feel more like the opposite sex, which is their true object of desire (themselves as the opposite sex, that is). People who are actually homosexual or bisexual can also have this paraphilia, but this pseudo-homo/bisexuality is a real phenomenon.

Perhaps these people are skewing the stats?

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I mean, you can't deny that it doesn't happen, though. No one is saying that all GNC kids turn out to be homosexual, but it would be stupid to rule it out as a possibility, especially when people start transing GNC kids sometimes as early as when they're toddlers.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Adding onto this, though, there's some good news on pushback against unnecessary operations on kids. I heard recently that there's a bill in Tasmania that will stop sex reassignment surgery on intersex children/babies until they're old enough to decide what they want to do about it (if the condition isn't life threatening at the time of birth or while growing up). I'm hoping that if that passes, some other appropriate bills concern unnecessary sex reassignment surgery will be passed as well.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is very good news. Intersex children should be able to make their own decisions about what, if anything, is done to their bodies, and the idea in the medical community that they require surgeries at all is a massive fallacy.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Exactly. Nobody's saying not conforming to sexist stereotypes about gender means you're not heterosexual. An effeminate male is not necessarily gay any more than a masculine female is a lesbian. But parents are generally more consciously aware of the possibility of their child being bisexual or homosexual when that's the case, because it's the stereotype. Conservative religious parents especially fear that, and worry that because the kid is "different" and "not like the other boys" that they have to push them to conform to rigid heterosexual stereotyping in a misguided attempt to prevent them from becoming homosexual, as if it were something controllable. In a case of a parent seeing their son as too "girly", they're sending the message to their child that they are ashamed of them and would rather have a trans daughter over an effeminate or gay son.

Religious conversion therapy for gay men specifically subjects them to training to try to masculinize them because they believe gender non-conformity is a sign of homosexuality. There are a lot of trans stories of religious parents trying to "trans the gay away", and it's the sort of thing that happens in Islamic countries, where homosexuals are flogged or outright killed, and making them trans is seen as a cure for that. I'm not sure what percentage of every case of a child being transed by their parents is due to religious underpinnings, but I'd suspect it's a decently sized number.

In an ideal world, gender stereotyping and the concept of "gender conformity" wouldn't exist at all.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Or, at least, there is no fanfare if a man is walking around in feminine clothing, especially since women (mostly) have the freedom to wear pants, suits, and other masculine clothes.

[–]SuperGayIsOkay 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Freedoms which didn't even exist for women not long ago. Imagine being arrested for something as mundane as wearing pants instead of a skirt! The world always feels as if it's a bit mad.

[–]Uranian[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Kids don't stay kids though, they grow up and they explore their sexuality. By taking away the ability to do so we are doing untold damage. The research shows that the vast majority of kids with gender issues tend to grow into LG or B adults. We may not know the mechanisms of this exactly. All I know is that almost every gay man I know talks about a childhood wherein they displayed some "feminine" traits or interests.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So the only time someone gets to tell you what your gender is is when it's your parents telling you that you are trans. But the reverse could never be true, of course.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, perfectly said:

  • Moms who raise concerns about Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) in their teenage girls are akin to religious homophobes. Of course they’re wrong and can’t be trusted.

  • Actual openly homophobic religious moms who “diagnose” their kids as transgender because they don’t want a gay kid: always right. Selfless heroes.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 19 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

"I'm not gonna repeat myself again, Timmy! You either play with barbies or keep your wiener. You can't have both!"

[–]jim_steak 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

These were all incredibly uncomfortable to read, I just don't understand how you could read through these accounts and come away thinking this is healthy or normal. Whenever I try to talk to people about this kind of thing in real life its incredibly frustrating because they just deny this ever happens, but it's right out there in the open if you just listen to what the proponents of children transitioning actually advocate for. Appalling.

[–]BEB 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Make sure to tell people that Lupron, the puberty blocker used the most (and off-label) in the US, is an advanced prostate cancer drug used to chemically castrate sex offenders. A simple web search would confirm that.

People need to know that these kids are being turned into lifetime, and very expensive, medical experiments.

[–]Annie09 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The one that described their 10 year old child as pan romantic set off all kinds of pedo flags for me

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, how would they fucking know?

[–]Uranian[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Absolutely! It's creepy that we're asking kids to label themselves in this way. VERY creepy.

[–]Aspiringcatlady_5 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I will fully support these children of "woke" parents and transgender parents who always believe their child is trans to sue the hospitals and then the government for not putting laws into place. I feel bad for the children who are just most likely straight but just more feminine or manly. And then also the kids who may just be gay and their parents are hungry for attention and brownie points.

[–]QueenOfTheNorthSuperLesbian 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wow. This is horrifying. I had to click away... These poor poor kids. Reset, please.

[–]Madsea 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These kids are going to be so messed up.

I don’t know how we let things get to this point, but I can’t wait till it all blows up. The medical scandals are coming.

[–]ThiccDropkickGay 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

These kids are being taught ridiculous ideas about gender. Like how many of you guys can honestly say that you feel like a man or woman? To me that concept has never crossed my mind. And what does it even mean to feel like a boy/girl anyway?

These kids would be getting their ideas about what it means to be either from the world around them, so they'll be associating gender stereotypes with being a boy/girl and if they don't conform to them, they'll start questioning themselves.

I don't even think the parents are completely to blame. Most of them would reassure their kids that they're fine in the body they have - except now trans activists are telling them they're horrible people if they don't encourage kids to feel wrong in their bodies.

[–]censorshipment 5 insightful - 7 fun5 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

We know the problem = gender conforming people who judge/bully gender nonconforming people. Gender norms aren't going away any time soon which is why so many people who hate gnc people are TRAs... trans activists (who aren't trans themselves) want to "correct" us (I'm gnc) i.e. trans conversion therapy. Parents don't want their kids being bullied... that's why my mom tried to force me to be feminine, she knew kids would tease me as a tomboy. What could she do? She couldn't stop kids from bullying me, so she made me "fit me". That's what these parents are attempting to do.

And to the folks who think I was better off for not being given puberty blockers, I would've rather have ruined my body than to be forced to look like a girl and grow boobs back then. I'm glad I didn't "transition" NOW, but my mental health never fully recovered from being forced to conform to femininity. When I look at my childhood photos, I want to slap the fuck out of my mom because I'm still angry that she made me look like a girl.

[–]usehername 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would've rather have ruined my body than to be forced to look like a girl and grow boobs back then.

There's a middle ground here (not putting a kid on drugs that will steal years of development from all their organs including the brain, heart, and lungs, and cause their bones to shatter easily before age 50, but also not forcing a kid to conform to femininity), and promoting the use of puberty blockers is getting us farther away from it. It's abusive to force a child to conform to femininity, but it's even worse to cripple them physically.

[–]BEB 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This woman is doing a lot of great work mapping the astronomical rise in pediatric gender clinics (where kids go to "transition") worldwide. There are now more than 200 clinics in the US.

She also collects detrans kids' stories.

She was on Trump-loving conservative TV channel NEWSMAX today:

https://twitter.com/GenderMapper

NEWSMAX interview:

https://twitter.com/bjportraits/status/1371854108248977411

[–]reluctant_commenter 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Quality article by Graham as usual. Thanks for sharing!

[–]latuspodSuper Straight 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Panromantic at age 10 really? Why does a 10 year old even know what the hell that is.

My son, who is 9, was asking questions about being gay, lesbian, bisexual, I answered, then he told me his classmate is bisexual, alright cool. Then afterwards he said his classmate is animesexual, I asked what that means, he said it means she is only attracted to anime characters and that is really worrying to me.

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think I learnt about the birds and bees from a friend when I was 11? How would this kid have any idea what their sexuality is yet? They probably think that because they have friends who are boys and girls that they must be pan or something. Like, why should they even be labelling their sexuality at this age... Just let then be kids.

[–]latuspodSuper Straight 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've talked to my kids about sex and different sexualities already, I think it's good for kids to know, but it was along the lines of what sex is where babies come from, that some people are gay and there's nothing wrong with that. But none of the the gender ideology crap. Part of the reason I have talked to them about it is I want them to understand before they get a woke teacher for sex ed that starts putting ideas in their head.

[–]censorshipment 7 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Eh, my mom told me I was gay before I reached middle school. And I'm glad she talked to me about sexuality because I thought I was the only girl who liked girls until she told me she liked girls (well, women) too.

[–]latuspodSuper Straight 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have no problem with kids learning about sexualities and all that, when we are taling about real ones, heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual. I don't see the need for any 10 year old to be into or understand what is meant by animesexual.

[–]Uranian[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I wouldn't worry too much about it. When I was 10 I remember "fancying" Marine Boy (ancient cartoon from the 70s) - it's probably completely normal and now he's just been encouraged to label himself. He'll move past it to attraction to actual humans!

[–]latuspodSuper Straight 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not worried about it at all for my kids, he isn't an animesexual it's his classmate he was talking about. I thought Jean Gray from the animated X-men was hot when I was a kid, there is no reason to call that a sexuality. And getting into the hundreds of different made up sexualities is not something kids need be thinking about.