LGB ErasureEllen Page on the cover of TIME. She just looks like a butch lesbian.

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[–]Lessom 72 insightful - 9 fun72 insightful - 8 fun73 insightful - 9 fun -  (6 children)

She looks the same but with short hair. She is not even masculine enough to be in butch category. Just looks like a woman dressing up as pre-pubescent boy.

[–]socialistrobot[S] 43 insightful - 14 fun43 insightful - 13 fun44 insightful - 14 fun -  (1 child)

All the commenters falling over themselves saying, "Omg! He's so hot" She's dressed like a middle schooler.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 36 insightful - 17 fun36 insightful - 16 fun37 insightful - 17 fun -  (0 children)

Bold of you to assume all the commenters aren't middle schoolers themselves.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 28 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly lmao.......... I mean, she isn't in the femme side definitely, but on the butch? Neither really. Like androgynous lmao

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Reminds me 15 years ago, when I tried to pass as a man, so people stop hating me for loving women, lol.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

A beautiful man, indeed.

[–]reluctant_commenter 20 insightful - 5 fun20 insightful - 4 fun21 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Hey, I got nothing against a solid t-shirt and jeans. :) Doesn't make her a man, though.

I wonder if part of the stereotype is that men's clothing is often more minimalist and fewer patterns, so wearing a plain white or black shirt without designs is supposed to signal masculinity. If so then I suppose I'm a man, too >_>

[–]MatthewofHouseGraySuper straight ally :) 61 insightful - 3 fun61 insightful - 2 fun62 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

In my opinion she doesn't look like a "butch lesbian", she looks like an unhappy and troubled person who needs mental help. There's obviously a real reason as to why she's doing this to herself.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 41 insightful - 1 fun41 insightful - 0 fun42 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My guess is she's experienced something troubling behind the curtains of Hollywood and this is her way to cope. Hollywood is brutal to women.

[–]DustinM 29 insightful - 3 fun29 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

It's her version of the Britanny Spears public meltdown except people are cheering her on.

[–]chazzstrong 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jesus fuck that makes me so depressed...

I really hate people these days.

[–]plenty_water 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

true

[–]Terfenclaw 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, I was just thinking that she looks absolutely miserable.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 27 insightful - 4 fun27 insightful - 3 fun28 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

To be fair, she's always looked miserable

[–]CuntWorshiperWomenholic full time | vagina fetishist part-time 17 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. I never understood lesbians who used to say she was hot.. some lesbians have really low standards, deep standards, underground standards. Some have lost their standards in petroleum.

[–]dreamgermsbisexual nightmare 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

IIRC, she’s spoken out before about how much homophobia and abusive people in the industry impacted her. It seemed like she was deeply affected by it in a negative way, like her entire transing was a result of internalizing that misogyny and homophobia.

[–]usehername 48 insightful - 1 fun48 insightful - 0 fun49 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She's not looking well. Pale and thin :/ What's with the little boy haircut? All those angle/lighting tricks to make her jaw look masculine did not work. And the pic with her gripping her phantom penis??? I wish she could just be happy as she is.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 39 insightful - 8 fun39 insightful - 7 fun40 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

She looks like she's in pain. Was there a big rock in her shoe during the photoshoot or something?

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pretty sure it's the depression.

[–]Cable 40 insightful - 3 fun40 insightful - 2 fun41 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

All the twitter comments saying she looks hot, but she looks 14.🤔

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 33 insightful - 2 fun33 insightful - 1 fun34 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

My guess is that it's intentional. There is a reason for her not getting on HRT. She doesn't want to be a woman OR a man, she wants to be a teen. A teen boy to be exact.

Midlife crisis in a nutshell. She's growing older and that scares her. She's decided she doesn't want to be an old lesbian, comfortably settled into marriage, anymore. She wants to be a soft boi instagram model for highschool girls to fawn over.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When you short and skinny, you look in your teen for a long time. Source: me lol

Ellen Page is damn beautiful. But the boy version is sad.

[–]ukrdude10 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

It's not exactly uncommon for people to find 14 year olds attractive, I believe there was a whole documentary about it.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

It's not exactly uncommon for people to find 14 year olds attractive

https://i.redd.it/af5vfccqc2s51.jpg

[–]Finnegan7921 28 insightful - 18 fun28 insightful - 17 fun29 insightful - 18 fun -  (0 children)

Emo Bieber.

[–][deleted] 34 insightful - 5 fun34 insightful - 4 fun35 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

I thought trans people were supposed to be happier after they came out? Y'know all happy and full of life and whatnot. She looks sick. Like if you blew on her too hard she'd disintegrate thanos-snap style.

[–][deleted] 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

At first I thought she had an eating disorder from how gaunt and skinny she looked.

[–]usehername 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Many trans-identified females starve themselves so their female fat distribution (breasts, butt, legs) is less noticeable.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Makes sense.

[–]sleepless-dreamer 34 insightful - 2 fun34 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

She looks gaunt and underweight, almost sickly. What kind of shit is she going through?

[–]chazzstrong 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She was never 'curvy', but she IS small enough to where even those curves were noticable. I'm guessing the extreme loss of weight and baggy clothes are an attempt to hide her female figure.

[–]socialistrobot[S] 32 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 0 fun33 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is so sad to see.

[–]chazzstrong 28 insightful - 5 fun28 insightful - 4 fun29 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

I can only imagine what happens when she realizes that NOBODY is ever going to cast her in a male role, unless it's specifically a movie about a trans person.
Also, good luck getting any female roles, since we now must have equity and nobody can play a role they aren't 100% aligned with.

[–]RiverSong 30 insightful - 2 fun30 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Oh, how wrong you are. A lot of offers are coming in, and they include "dude roles". :D (you can read the article here: https://archive.is/FOKqJ)

I can only imagine what it will be like when a cinema full of "normal people" will sit there and wonder why they are expected to perceive that woman with a bad haircut as a DUDE!

[–]DiscoStegosaurus 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I can’t imagine that anyone would want to watch a movie with her trying to LARP as a man. So many people are completely over all of this woke bullshit being shoved down our throats. This will completely backfire for her.

[–]usehername 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

now that I'm in this body (from the article you linked)

As if she switched bodies??

[–]RiverSong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe it's a Freaky Friday situation? :D

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My theory is that's she's gonna leave acting behind altogether and venture into modeling or activism. I mean, I'd imagine she's already rich enough to not have to work a day for the rest of her life.

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 26 insightful - 7 fun26 insightful - 6 fun27 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

I find it hilarious. Swank was more convincing for fucks sake.

I found Ellen somewhat attractive but Elliot looks like the personification of a barf bag.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Swank was great in that role imo.

[–]Seahorse 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

She looks desperately unhappy and I'm quite concerned that she will take her life in the next few years.

We are supposed to believe she's happy and living her true authentic self but she looks miserable.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I mean, trans suicide rate post-transition is something around 40% now, isn't it? Things aren't looking up for Ellen, especially considering the fact it was the quarantine that made her "realize" she was trans. I can imagine her feeling terrible regret once things go back to normal.

[–][deleted] 24 insightful - 4 fun24 insightful - 3 fun25 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

She looks sick and greasy. WTF is that shitty haircut?

[–]RiverSong 24 insightful - 3 fun24 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

She doesn't even look butch. Just like a young boy, waiting for puberty to finally set in.

[–]MyLongestJourney 24 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

So she got top surgery a double mastectomy. Ouch.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Could she just be binding? It's not like her breasts were big to begin with.

[–]NonimeTired of Explaining Reality to Fuckwits (TERF) 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

No, she said she was already recovering from top surgery a medically unnecessary and voluntary double mastectomy when she came out.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Damn. Her transition feels immensely rushed considering she's only "realized" she's trans during the quarantine. All the lovebombing she's been receiving on social media will keep her head above water for a while but it will soon fizzle out and she's gonna be left with a lot of regret. My guess is she's either gonna detrans in a few years and become the leading voice of that movement or join the 40%. A big shame either way.

[–]verystablegenius 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Daaaaaaaamn. Hopefully she detransitions and becomes a voice for that movement.......that would be the best scenario. if she commits suicide it’ll only reinforce TRA bs.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

As much as I hope she'll pull through this, I'm afraid it's not very likely. I don't know Page personally, but just seeing her in some of her recent interviews one can easily notice how her mental health is slipping. She's already admitted to a years long battle with depression and anxiety and to struggling with Hollywood's expectations of her. And now she seems to have hit her peak with the trans stuff and her divorce.

[–]plenty_water 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i just tried looking for a recent interview and couldn't find anything..can you share?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Damn, she's going to regret that.

[–][deleted] 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why do I get the feeling she was negged by her tra friends, that her jawline makes her looked manly?

[–]reluctant_commenter 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I know a gay woman IRL who this happened to. :(

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think a defined jawline looks beautiful on women :/

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 22 insightful - 5 fun22 insightful - 4 fun23 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

She has one of the most beautiful face ever. Hot as hell. Too bad for this shitty decision.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 14 insightful - 8 fun14 insightful - 7 fun15 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

Agreed. Only flaw I could point out is her oversized forehead. But I only mention it as a fellow fivehead.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

She's perfect.

[–]DustinM 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Page attended the Shambhala Buddhist school in Halifax. Shambhala is deeply embroiled in a sexual abuse scandal from the time Page would have been a student. This is a very small school of under 200 kids from K-12 so the chances of her being a victim is quite high. Lots of documentation here: https://andreamwinn.com/offerings/bps-welcome-page/

"Buddhist Project Sunshine Phase 1 report – This is the groundbreaking report that caused Shambhala Leadership to publicly admit the widespread sexualized violence in the Shambhala community

Buddhist Project Sunshine Phase 2 report – This is report led to the Kalapa Council resigning en masse and the Sakyong stepped down from all duties pending an investigation into his alleged sexual assaults.

Buddhist Project Sunshine Phase 3 report – This report detailed more serious allegations against Osel Mukpo (aka Sakyong Mipham Rinpoche), including sex with underage girls"

[–]Seahorse 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah I'm not surprised, and that's not getting into what she would have had to deal with as a young woman in Hollywood.

She's deeply troubled, I'm quite angry we've got to the point of celebrating a clearly ill person trying to disassociate.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"I was distinctly told, by people in the industry, when I started to become known: ‘People cannot know you’re gay,’ ” the 32-year-old actress, who came out in 2014, recalled during an interview with PorterEdit.

Page went on to reveal that she was also “pressured — forced in many cases — to always wear dresses and heels for events and photo shoots,"

Sauce: https://people.com/movies/ellen-page-forced-wear-dresses-before-coming-out/

And that's just from a single article I've skimmed through. There must be so much other shit, worse shit, she's went through that we'll never know about. Hollywood is tough on all of its women, but I cannot imagine the horrors a young gender non-conforming lesbian must have went through there.

[–]censorshipment 10 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Well damn.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Jesus. Was anything documented to have happened at this particular school? I'm listening to the CBC podcast linked there where a leader of Shambhala mentioned the removal of teachers.

What's with religions/ideologies and sexual abuse...

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's with religions/ideologies and sexual abuse...

There will always be an uneven distribution of power in the leader-follower dynamic. Sickos take advantage of that.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

With an eating disorder

[–]dreamgermsbisexual nightmare 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

She looks like an anemic fifteen year old boy who just had his drunk friend cut his hair. Has she lost some significant weight or something? There is something “off” about how she looks that I can’t really place.

[–]ukrdude10 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you, I thought I was the only one. She looks miserable in virtually every photo and interview, it's unsettling.

[–]Shinyowl 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree...she looks like she's about to cry.

[–]censorshipment 18 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 5 fun19 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

She's always looked traumatized in the eyes/face (similar to how Gia Carangi looked). The haircut makes that more noticeable.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She's one of the few people I've seen who genuinely look uncomfortable smiling. Not that she does that very often anyway.

[–]reluctant_commenter 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Honestly I'm kind of sad to see all these comments judging what she looks like. Obviously she does not pass, she doesn't look like a man at all, but there is no need to bash her physical appearance that she didn't choose (apart from things like a haircut that are obviously chosen).

It's messed up that people at Time and elsewhere are feeding her delusion that she can become a man, and encouraging teens who are dissatisfied with their bodies of the same thing by publicizing this.

edit: I will say though, she doesn't look especially happy. Helena, the former mod of r/detrans, made a tweet about it that made me laugh: https://mobile.twitter.com/lacroicsz/status/1371985979179929605

[–]winterwillow 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I agree with you. It's obvious that she's not doing great and knowing what could have lead her to make this decision (abuse, ED, homophobia), there's no need to be cruel. I have a friend with a teen daughter, Page looks like any other edgy non-binary they/them, albeit in a younger demographic. Her transition isn't the wrong way to go because she's 5'1 and has a bad haircut and wont ever pass, it's the wrong way because it - after the buzz dies down and the novelty wears off - wont fix the underlying issues.

[–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You put it even better than I did. Glad you thought so too. I think it's important to be clear about why it's harmful-- and in some ways laughable-- to see someone who is like LGB pretending to be a man on the cover of Time. It is not laughable because her appearance deserves ridicule, it is laughable because someone pretending to be the opposite sex that they are is ridiculous, since it isn't possible to change what sex you are. And even then, I have trouble laughing for for the reasons you observed regarding mental health.

[–]winterwillow 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you! Yeah of course I have to bite my tongue sometimes when it comes to people falling for such an outrageous claim - ridiculous as you say - but I try to remember that in a couple of years, when it's all unravelling, because it will, I don't want people to feel like they'll never be welcomed back because of the things they believed or the things they did to themselves.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

So she did double mastectomy or only planning on it? That's pretty sad. And she is saying she was in very deep anxiety and depression because of being lesbian and "not like others", that society is very unfair to woman and because of that she always wanted to be a boy. Sounds like both internalized homophobia and misogyny. Then she saying that being without support during lockdown oppened her eyes that she is a trans. Kids, remember: thinking too much is dangerous. Now she received lovebombing, more support and instantly things that people refused to help wher with are now helping her and she got extra privileges. It is pretty sad that a lesbian will be denied and only "converting to straight man" will let that lesbian to become socially accepted.

And even after all this - she still looks like a woman.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Another commenter here mentioned that's she's had the mastectomy done. She seems to be rushing through her transition, only having realized her transness during the quarantine. It's scary to see. She's gonna regret this.

[–]shveya 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sad, I thought she was just wearing a binder at first.

[–]Annie09 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

god, that just looks so sad. Get bullied in HW for being a lesbian, come out as trans and get Time cover lol They look ridiculous, you're a grown-ass woman Page and trying to be a little boy-wtf is wrong with you. Are people that afraid of growing up that they have to make up these fantasies? Its creepy

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So what's up, has she started hormones yet?

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Nothing of sorts mentioned in the Time article so I guess not. My theory is that she's never gonna start them because she doesn't actually want to be a whole ass man. She wants to be a teen boy.

This whole transition thing seems to be more about her not being able to come to terms with aging and less about wanting to be male.

Classic midlife crisis.

[–]ukrdude10 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Actual teenage boys are at least a foot taller than her, and have more weight on them. Her physical features are the exact opposite of an "ideal" mid-30s male, I'm terrified for her future, there's no way she will pass properly and live a normal life like this.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are we even talking about the same person here? This isn't like, some Russian teenager risking her life to larp as a man. Page lives in the fucken Hollywood Hills for christ sake. She doesn't need to pass. Her transition has skyrocketed her popularity. She's probably getting her sneakers licked and her gender validated by her execs as we speak.

[–]NonimeTired of Explaining Reality to Fuckwits (TERF) 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think she looks like a sad little boy with mental problems. Also she is a super petite 5'2". Her chances of passing as a male are in the negatives.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As I said in the other thread, I'm guessing her diet is fairly deficient, and it's making her look(and feel) a lot older than she is. And more depressed. That or drugs. But drugs mess with your nutrient intake so it's the really same problem in the end. I hope she eventually ignores the gender affirmation idiots and gets through this crisis.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It's a man, baby.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are a lot of parallels for me with Britney Spears' meltdown. It reaches a point at which people have to stop looking and laughing and recognize that there's some serious underlying mental health issues involved. It's impossible to ignore the physical frailty, as well as Page's long history of emotional outbursts and assertions of persecution (remember the interviews she gave in defence of Jussie Smollett?). It's just tragic that a maladjusted coping mechanism is being celebrated and that she'll likely never get the help she truly needs.

As others have pointed out, she likely has a history of trauma. I imagine Hollywood is the worst place for a gender non conforming lesbian, as female sexuality is currency and one essentially has to learn to perform for the male gaze to be successful.