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[–]censorshipment 7 insightful - 7 fun7 insightful - 6 fun8 insightful - 7 fun -  (3 children)

I think you all underestimate or just don't want to acknowledge how many LGB people are TRAs. Also, remember that YouTube is global... homosexual may be used as a slur in homophobic countries. Also, how many self-hating bi people find bisexual offensive? I'm sure self-hating homo people find homosexual offensive. Maybe conservative homosexuals hate the word.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don’t know that we underestimate how many LGB people are TRAs. That’s the reason why we’re participating here and have to be very careful around other LGB people we know because we have no idea where their head is at.

However, the LGB people I personally know who are into gender nonsense are like a million steps behind on what mainstream trans/gender activism is doing right now. They’re still all about recognizing sex because to pretend it doesn’t exist makes the most formative experiences of their lives nonsensical. They are blind to the sex erasure and they are also blindly following what these orgs are telling them about what’s offensive and why. I do think the majority of them are not unreachable (the actual homosexual and bisexual ones, particularly bisexual people who actually do, have, or would participate in same-sex relationships). They are up against a very thick propaganda wall and they want to believe in the benevolence of all this but many can be shown the light.

A lot of them are also only casually TRAs and are just virtue signaling because they’re been duped to believe transgenderism is an equivalent experience but from what they can see it has no immediate relevance to their lives so they see it as harmless while they focus on living their lives (this is more late 20s and above LGB people).

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I don’t know that we underestimate how many LGB people are TRAs. That’s the reason why we’re participating here and have to be very careful around other LGB people we know because we have no idea where their head is at.

Exactly. That's the whole reason we're here. Because other LGBT spaces have been overrun by TRAs and the LGBs who gobble up their bullshittery and become TRAs themselves.

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I'm not denying any of that, but what I am saying is that most of the more recent changes like this in the US (i.e not the countries where the word 'homosexual' is being thrown around as an insult), particularly the ones that have to do with language policing, are getting made because of the TQ. I consider TRAs to be TQ in the sense that they parrot the TQ narrative and contribute to LGB erasure and deplatforming, regardless of whether they're LGB or not. When I ask why would homosexuals find that word offensive, I mean the non-self hating ones.