Gay Men"Trans men... can be both males and men, just like cis men" - Real talk, how long do you guys think AGB will last before getting shut down?

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[–]pacmanla 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Under their terms, homosexuality will always be hateful or "phobic" because it's a pin in their "biological sex doesn't matter" balloon.

I keep asking this question, regarding this statement. If homosexuality puts a pin in their "biological sex doesn't matter" balloon, what do they think of heterosexuality? Does it not also "put a pin in their balloon"? I'm curious as to why not attack heterosexuals so vehemently as they seem to be attacking the LGB portion within their own so called "community". I genuinely ask this as a heterosexual male, who's curious for answers. Is it just "vanilla" heterosexuals looking for a special definition, because being straight is too "boring"? People with serious mental issues? I'm really curious.

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They don't attack heterosexuals because:

1 - A lot of new-age transgenders and genderspecials are heterosexuals. It has the effect of gay people being the target of the casual coercive "not accepting girldick and boipussy is transphobic y'know :)" more so than straight people. And, from my observations, homosexual transgender people tend to have their heads screwed on more so than the heterosexual ones.

2 - They can't. The vast majority of people are heterosexuals. If they go after them, then they will just lose all their credibility and respect. But, they can bully homosexuals easily because our communities are somewhat insular (and irrelevant), so the wider population has zero idea of what goes on. Additionally, performing under the banner of "inclusiveness" and "acceptance" gives people further reason to not suspect that anything is awry.

[–]Taln_Reich 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Essentially, I think there's two reasons why LG people are more hit by that. The first is that commonly LGB-people are grouped with the transgender population. The second becomes clearer, when one considers that sexual orientation for transgender people is roughly one third opposite-gender, bisexual and same-gender each, which (since there is vastly less LGB-people than straight people) means that the ratio is highly skewed towards LGB-people being confronted by transgender people wanting to date them.

(Note: I'm working on a spreadsheet regarding the latter reason, but I'm still missing what ratio of transgender people include/exclude bisexuals - whichmy preliminary back-of-the-envelope calculations have shown has a significant effect on the results)