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[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 44 insightful - 6 fun44 insightful - 5 fun45 insightful - 6 fun -  (4 children)

There seems to be a bifurcation of the notion of sexuality into 'vanilla, straight sexuality' and 'LGBT+'. Anything that is not heterosexual, PIV, missionary-with-the-lights-off sex is 'queer' and therefore automatically part of 'LGBTQ+' and, of course, lumped in with all of us. Did you use handcuffs in the bedroom once? Congratulations, you're 'queer'! Did you kiss a girl wearing cherry chapstick in college? Great, you're 'queer' too! Did you choose a female avatar in a video game that one time? Well I've got exciting news for you, bucko.

Similarly, there's an atomisation of this 'LGBTQI+' sexuality into ever-finer distinctions and subcategories. Do you enjoy casual sex outside the context of a relationship? You're actually an 'aromantic', and you're a VALID part of 'LGBTQIA+', here's your flag. Are you actually just kind of a slut? You're 'polyamorous', and you're a valid part of 'LGBTQIAP+'.

It's this exact kind of shit that rehabilitates the old idea that people who are homosexual are actually deviants and fetishists.

This is disgusting and it must be stopped.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 17 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

Did you choose a female avatar in a video game that one time?

Does it count if I played Tomb raider and there was no avatar option other than Lara Croft?

But for real, these people pry way to far into things to try and find a way to call everyone queer. Unless you are a walking, talking stereotype straight out of the 50s, these people will find something to use as an excuse for calling you queer.

The horseshoe theory is fact

[–]oyasuminasai50 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And I think a lot of true blue LGB people support this because then they can point around and say "look at how many LGBTQ people there are in the world!" of course when you expand the definition of queer to include pretty much anyone and everyone who wants to be included, it's a pretty easy thing to do.

but i think LGB people don't fight back against this ever expanding definition of "queer" because they're too swept up in the ideological battle of us vs. them, liberals vs. conservatives and if they can look around and point to all these millions of examples of "LGBTQ" people, then it bolsters support for the left and leftwing ideology and appears to legitimize the LGBTQ community as a whole. Even though all we're doing is just undermining the parameters around what being LGBT even means to the point where - again - it includes almost anyone who wishes to opt into the identity.

they just want to look and feel super 100% aCcEpTing (and therefore NOT conservative in the slightest!) even to the point of eroding what it means to be LGBT in the first place

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

If anything, they're doing more harm to themselves than good. We said decades ago that all we wanted were equal rights and to be treated equally. We've got the legal protections and society was going in the right direction, but now they're proving everyone who cried over a slipperly slope right. "We" didn't stop after getting what we asked for, now we're trying to get men into restrooms with little girls and are screaming at people that monogamy must be abolished.

Because they've tried to legitimize us by bringing more people into this, they've done no good and have only shwon examples of us being monsters we were accused of being.

[–]oyasuminasai50 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's an example of something good being taken too far. And it's a consequence of perpetual activism - fighting for something just because you want to fight for something and not because you've sat down and objectively decided with any degree of aforethought what you want the world to look like.