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[–][deleted] 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If they had just removed all the gender stuff from the bill, I'd be all for it. Instead, LGB are unwittingly being held hostage as a societal battering ram to push trans ideology through. This is a tactic, one that has been employed before, and reminds me of actions by very, very unsavory people in decades past. The conflation of sex and gender identity in the legislation wasn't an oversight or an accident. It was deliberate.

This legislation isn't going to help trans people, it's going to stir up a giant backlash against them, and thus us. If you speak out against trans, then you've clearly got a problem with lesbians, gays, and bisexuals because they're all in the same initialism together.

Social movements have taken on a new flavor these days. It's not about a little bit of progress at a time, it's about grabbing everything you want right away. Anyone who opposes you is a bigot.

You don't get consensus and progress by stuffing things down people's throats. You don't get it by blocking people on Twitter, or other screaming-matches. Talking-up your supporters is advertisement. Talking to your opponents is activism. You get progress by understanding. Understanding only happens via healthy conversations, and you've got to be truthful and authentic... that little house of cards they're building?

Progress does not happen by shoving legislation through without any input.

[–]our_team_is_winning 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If you speak out against trans, then you've clearly got a problem with lesbians, gays, and bisexuals because they're all in the same initialism together.

That is their horrid BS tactic. It is more important than ever to Drop the T. The Fetish Validation Act strips women of their civil rights.

What are we going to do about this?

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    [–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    If a woman sees a transwoman acting creepy in a change room, shelter, prison, bathroom, or any other female space, she can't confront him, or ask authority to get him to leave. The real woman would be smeared with the label "transphobe" or "terf" and be arrested for hatespeech, or discrimination. So it eliminates female spaces, and removes recourse for woman wronged by transwomen.

    [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    And this is what's cooking my goose. It's a burnt-offering at this point. Potential benevolent sexism incoming, take it or leave it, but I don't give a goddamn anymore. Not negotiating with terrorists anymore. This is a men's issue. This is my issue. It's not a women's issue. We should be policing our own. What in the hell happened that women have to be the exclusive front dealing with our shit? I'm male. You're female. We're different. We're different. Okay?

    I don't fully understand women's issues. I don't. There are nuances that are actually quite confusing to me. But, that does not mean that if women say that they want X, that I should stick my head in the sand about that. I wish more people took this attitude. You don't have to understand to support it. If a group of people says that something is meaningful to them, best listen.