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[–]ks00 46 insightful - 1 fun46 insightful - 0 fun47 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The trans horde whinged about michfest for literally decades. Never did it occur to them that they could create their own spaces, all they do is take, take, take.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 27 insightful - 7 fun27 insightful - 6 fun28 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

The trans movement is inherently parasitic because it feeds on external validation. It's like that old philosophical question: If there's no one around to validate a transperson do they exist?

[–]deliciousdogfoodmy name isnt a puppyplay reference i swear 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

People so filled with visceral hatred can't build anything. All they're capable of is destroying.

[–]julesburm1891 37 insightful - 7 fun37 insightful - 6 fun38 insightful - 7 fun -  (8 children)

  1. Of course the complaining transman in the interview is named Brayden.

  2. Has it occurred to TQ that they can go to any other campground in the world? One small campground in central Michigan says no and they’re acting like they’ve been banned from every national park.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Because the fact that any place is allowed to reject them is a bad thing, so their fight will never end until every place is forced to accept them

[–]JulienMayfair 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

In addition, forcing places to accept them provides them with waves of gender euphoria.

Back in the heyday of Gender Critical, they used to talk about transwomen who would systematically go around town going to every women's group, one by one, trying to derail them. It's one of their favorite games. Target, disrupt, destroy, move on.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hmm, the locust analogy really is looking better and better by the day

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Because the fact that any place is allowed to reject them is a bad thing, so their fight will never end until every place is forced to accept them

And then I wonder if they won't like it because the place will be full of trans-- THAT'S not "validating"! It's gotta be a "cis" space to make them feel like REAL boys/girls. Otherwise they'd be just as happy to create their own hangouts and leave us alone.

Am I wrong in thinking that the trans dream is to be the ONLY one in a cis-spot? The sole IT'S MA'AM in the ladies' room, or Gayden at this campground? What would this genderspeshul do if Camp Boomerang was suddenly 100% "Braydens"? Maybe "pre-everything" ones? Running around with their boobs & boipussies out, frantically searching for homegrown dick that's nowhere to be found?

They don't just want (like every other civil rights movement) inclusion... they want to be the belle (or beau) of the ball.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is an interesting point. I think that your answer comes from the fact that they refuse to date each other and insist on dating real LGB people. They want the world to be normal except that everyone pretends they are different gender than what they are.

[–]Oiorpata 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Acceptance isn't enough, they must be CENTERED! Everything has to revolve around them and their feelings.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Omg I thought the "Ayden" meme was just exaggeration but no. They're real!

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Brayden is the New Aiden/Ayden uwu

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 36 insightful - 4 fun36 insightful - 3 fun37 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

This "You can't have anything, not even a tiny little gay camping club in Michigan unless in involves me and my vagina" thing is so toxic. Why is this gay camping club allowed then? It should be forced to accept straight men and women as well. Everything everywhere should be forced to include everyone always.

I'm sure Aiden wouldn't mind doing naked gay camping with a bachelorette party of shrieking drunk straight women.

[–]millicentfawcett 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's this sort of mission creep that means very soon no group identity or freedom of association will be allowed. It was reported today about a women's refuge in the UK that had previously become trans inclusive lost their funding because they don't provide services for gay men. So let's say they did relent and accept gay men then immediately straight men have a good legal argument for discrimination. The end result being that what was formerly a women's refuge becomes a refuge for everyone and very few women will want to access it.

[–]JulienMayfair 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We really need some thoughtful expositions on why exclusion is frequently necessary for a group to be able to carry out its mission.

I'm on a professional group on Facebook. It's a secret/private group, and we only allow people into the group with documented expertise in our field, and it's a great group. If you look at open amateur groups on the same topic, they start out with a few knowledgeable people and very soon get overwhelmed with people who know nothing and just want free help.

Inclusion is not always a universal good, and exclusion is not always a universal evil.

[–]millicentfawcett 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. I hate the way any kind of exclusion is automatically a bad thing now. There are situations where it serves a completely valid purpose.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The people arguing are correct. This is transphobic. The problem is that what is considered to be transphobic is not always bad for the rest of society. It is 100% trans exclusionary, and that is, by the new definition, transphobic. To say that it is a bad thing, however, is absurd. There were plenty of places that tried to be male exclusive and female exclusive, this campground is just staying with the times and making sure gender ideology doesn't allow women a loophole to enter.

It's stuff like this that really brings to question, is being transphobic bad? Obviously unprovoked violence against people is bad, but what about stuff like this? Where people are just trying to do their own thing but are now accused of bigotry for... trying to do their own thing away from others...

And would LGB people get mad at a similar campground designed for straight people to skinny dip and mingle? I know I wouldn't want to be surrounded by a bunch of people that I am not attracted to and/or aren't attracted to me in what appears to be a sex oriented place. So why would TRAs want to be in a sex oriented campground surrounded by nothing but people that aren't attracted to them? It's either stupidity or a victim complex.

[–][deleted] 24 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 0 fun25 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just to be pedantic... it's just sex segregated, not phobic. The trans community has gotten a lot of traction by tacking the "phobia" label on things which clearly are not rooted in an irrational fear of anything, but rather are just asking for sex boundaries to be respected, regardless of one's "identity". Of course, you're right that the word "transphobic", in being used to literally describe anything that is less than full VaLiDaTiOn is a meaningless word now.

[–]Seahorse 18 insightful - 2 fun18 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I hope that they stay strong through the relentless harassment and bullying.

You're not a fucken bloke Brayden.

[–]millicentfawcett 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I read about this yesterday. He's not getting much (vocal) support. I find it hard to understand why so many are keen on their spaces being mixed sex.

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good for him for sticking up for his sexuality! Gay men get so much hate from trans assholes. I am a masculine woman and had a fiance come out. Nobody argued that I looked enough like a man. No, they helped this dude cheat on me with another gay guy. I'm over it now. My ex and that homewrecker were fuckheads but it did me a favor in the long run. If a guy wants something he will get it. If it is dick he wants and you don't have it... sorry sis!

[–]Helveticus 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You beat me to it. This is such utter bullshit.

[–]Capn 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Am I the only gay man that finds trans men hot? I particularly like the comment, “. . . transmen are not men.” How many times has the statement been made, “Gay men are not real men.”

gregg, you touched on what would be the nearest thing to a fetish for me. I don’t usually find tattoos attractive (no offense intended to the inked out there) but to see a muscular tatted transman body with a vagina is a huge turn on for me.

UHHHHH... How does one break the news to "gay men" that liking a masculine woman with a vagina does not in fact make you gay. You're literally bisexual who probably leans towards men and masculinity and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

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    [–]Movellon[M] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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    [–]BEB 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    I hope that the gay men who have been attacking lesbians for their protests against the TQ+ invasion of lesbian spaces and lesbianism itself read the comments on this article and realize that gay men's time has come to be TQ+ target.

    Perhaps now the gay men who sided with their trans brothers will understand how it feels to be called "transphobic" simply because they do not want to sleep with the opposite sex.

    [–]hetisachoice 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Perhaps now the gay men who sided with their trans brothers will understand how it feels to be called "transphobic" simply because they do not want to sleep with the opposite sex.

    Heterosexuals are the ones engaged in recruiting homosexuals, not the other way around. This is basically coercion which as far as I'm concerned is one step away from rape.