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[–]BEB[S] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

LGB FIGHT BACK held a number of demonstrations across the US today, its launch day; I would call that impressive.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Let me guess, "demonstrations" along the lines of "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN" or "BREXIT MEANS BREXIT" - meaningless emotionally charged statements that don't actually achieve anything that benefits anyone, right?

I'll be impressed when they set out to help struggling homosexuals or other people badly affected by the LGBT. But I'm betting you they won't.

[–]BEB[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

On their very first day, LGB FIGHT BACK allied with parents of kids (including gay kids) who suddenly claimed to be transgender to put on demonstrations across the US. It's on their website and on their twitter account, with many pictures to prove it.

I have tremendous respect for people who go out and do concrete things to effect change, sometimes at considerable risk to their personal and financial safety, instead of sitting on the internet complaining about the world.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh okay, and this helps victims of abuse, homosexuals with extreme depression, people who can't afford housing or food etc... how exactly? Oh wait, it doesn't. It's literally all virtue signalling. And are they going to "fight back" against "LGB" specific issues, such as rabid lesbian extremists who hate all men and refuse to care about homosexual males, or homosexual males being incredibly sexist against women? Nope, because there's no issue there, am I right? Only trans bad.

But fine. Are they going to "fight back" against the horrible oppression that the transgender movement is putting intersex children and adults through, literally forcing them into "sex reassignment" and trying to pass laws so that the government legally recognizes us as "its"? Nope! Not that either.

I also find it funny how you feel the need to capitalize the name; it makes it even more terrible. It's so fucking cringy. Standing around yelling "TRANS BAD, WE LGB HIVEMIND GOOD" isn't "fighting" anything. This won't "effect change" just as radfem lesbians showing up to Pride didn't make anything better. It'd be more worthwhile to take actions as an individual, all that's gonna come from a hyperbolic, stupid "organization" being overdramatic about it is that the rest of us with anti-trans beliefs are going to be further discredited, because our stance is being represented by a bunch of tribalist goons yelling about how trans is bad and "LGB" is a godsend, without actually tackling the issues. If you made light of the actual medical abuse that some people are put through thanks to trans ideology, then you might get somewhere, because I don't think that's something sane people can ignore, even if they've been manipulated into believing that accepting trans is the "tolerant" thing to do. I think most sane people will ignore hyperbolic slogans and mindless yelling, however.

[–]BEB[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't know that they're yelling. But LGB FIGHT BACK (or rather LGB fight back) are outside hospitals that transition children and they are specifically mentioning that gay children are being transitioned.

This appears to be their focus for now. In the US, which is where this group is, we have the Equality Act and Congressman Ted Lieu's bill banning gender conversion therapy bearing down on us to destroy the lives of gays and gay children, so perhaps that's why lgb fight back feel they need to address this first?

And I don't know if you know that gay rights and specifically getting funding for AIDs research involved a lot of mindless yelling and publicity stunts. ACT UP pulled stunts much more dramatic and much louder than this lot has tried yet. And ACT UP got results, as the hundreds of thousands of gay men who didn't get HIV, or who can now live with it, can attest.

As your interest is in intersex children and adults, and lgb fight back seem to know a lot about what the transgender movement is doing, probably including its usage of intersex as "evidence" that biological sex "isn't" dimorphic, you could contact them and share your knowledge with them and perhaps get them interested in your cause?

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh yes, because that totally prevents medical abuse. Why, perhaps I should go stand outside hospitals BRAVELY & WOKELY for hours where I know they butcher intersex infants, because merely STANDING will definitely get people to change their minds. Why waste time trying to educate peopel WHY it's abuse and inhumane, when I could just beg for donations to my new "organization" that just stands outsides hospitals for a bit and calls ourselves woke & stunning heroes? Truly inspiring.

Hyperbole. Do I think that bill is nonsense? Yes. Do I think it's dangerous? Yes! Is it "LITERALLY DESTROYING THE LIVES OF THE GAYS?!" No. That's retarded.

Also, "gay children" don't exist. Children don't have a concept of this. "Gay children" is as creepy as a concept as "trans children" and is borderline pedophilic.

And I don't know if you know that gay rights and specifically getting funding for AIDs research involved a lot of mindless yelling and publicity stunts

But it didn't, though, that's rewritten and romantacized history. AIDS broke out because people were too stupid to be responsible, it doesn't just affect homosexual males, and it was researched and treated because it's a disease and that's what people do with diseases. I can't name a single disease that hasn't been treated because it might "get back" at the minorities, that's a fucking stupid idea. It's like saying the fact that we don't have a miracle cure for Ebola is because white scientists are racist & that it was specifically made to target Africans, when really it's just a horrible disease.

Also AIDS isn't gone. I hope you're aware of that. It's still not a good idea to go buttfuck 12 different guys in a back alley nightclub's bathroom, and it never will be. AIDS wasn't some boogeyman virus that magically got to every gay man ever as a targeted attack, it is a STD like any other.

As your interest is in intersex children and adults, and lgb fight back seem to know a lot about what the transgender movement is doing, probably including its usage of intersex as "evidence" that biological sex "isn't" dimorphic, you could contact them and share your knowledge with them and perhaps get them interested in your cause?

Intersex people don't want nor need LGBT to speak for them. Most of us don't want to be associated with them, period. I don't want fake nonsense groups, in particular, speaking for a serious, REAL issue.

It's bad that trans are using us as an argument point, but trading that for "LGB fight back" using us as an argument point is not any better. We are not simply pawns to be meddled with, we are real people with REAL medical conditions and more issues than "muh gender identity" or "muh brave gay history" because most countries don't even recognize the right to our own bodies, our own sexes, or our privacy. We're considered "things" by a lot of people and many are pushed into becoming guinea pigs and prodded by invasive fingers because we're "weird and fascinating."