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[–]8bitgay 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If it's a matter of kindness to call someone with CAIS a women, trans right activists can use that to say be kind to people that don't like their sex and body and want to be the opposite sex, call them the opposite sex, treat them as the opposite sex, let them use spaces for their opposite sex, etc.

That's the problem.

Frankly I'm fine with calling people their preferred pronouns, or the name they decide. Your example is extremely simplistic though, since by your language alone on this sentence you imply people only identify as man/woman. Activists moved past this a long time ago.

But anyway, being kind to call them the way they want to be called doesn't mean they are whatever they want to be. Letting them use spaces that aren't theirs isn't being kind. Where is the kindness towards the other people involved? Why should, for example, gay men lose their safe space, because someone who identifies as a man decides they need to be part of it?

[–]Not_a_celebrity 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with the second part. That's why, if a woman says she's a man, I will not call her by her preferred pronouns. I don't want to indulge in her delusions, and don't want her to get further away from reality. After pronouns, she will make others treat her as a man, let her go in men's spaces, etc. To stop women from invading gay men's and gay women's spaces, we shouldn't call TQs by their preferred pronouns. When they say they are the opposite sex, we should stop them right there, before it's too late and they move on to the next stage, which is invading the spaces of the opposite sex that they have been doing for years now.