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[–]julesburm1891 37 insightful - 9 fun37 insightful - 8 fun38 insightful - 9 fun -  (7 children)

So, was the bus driver an old school homophobe or a transwoman? Seems like both get equally triggered by lesbians stating that we’re lesbians.

[–]8bitgay 31 insightful - 10 fun31 insightful - 9 fun32 insightful - 10 fun -  (6 children)

Ah, yeah, that fun guessing game. Who said that, a conservative homophobe or a TRA? Who said that, an incel or a TRA?

[–]julesburm1891 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

I’m trying to think of how we could have an actual interactive game of that on this sub now. Because, really, deciding if Pat Robertson or Rachel McKinnon said something is an actual challenge.

[–]8bitgay 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Sometimes I think we should post this kind of ambiguous stuff on some Reddit subs, you know? There are many Reddit subs dedicated to posting awful situations involving incels, homophobia, etc.

Someone could, for example, post a screenshot of something incel-like said by a TRA, but without mentioning who posted it. After the post gets popular enough and people are calling out the issue of what the "incel" said, then the poster can reveal that it was originally posted by a TRA.

I think most people in theory would be reasonable enough to see the issues with the type of content we discuss here. But the moment they see who created the content, then they rationalize it in a way that they can agree with abusive or homophobic narratives.

Frankly I think we should start moving in this direction. I've experienced this many times, trying to show friends some awful stuff said by TRAs and they immediately tried to justify it when they saw who said it. I think they'd be much more likely to agree it's awful if they assumed it was said by a straight guy or something.

[–]Bright_paintingLoad, lesbian biologist 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That sounds like a really great idea! People need to be able to make up their minds without being threatened into silence or complicity by the TRAs.

[–]8bitgay 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah. I've seen many comments on Reddit talking about how awful the LGBDropTheT sub was.

In this sub we see many examples of harassment, homophobia, violent discourses, etc. I doubt all those commenters are fine with all these things.

What happens is that, since they know TRAs said and did these things, they immediately feel inclined to agree with them, because they've been peer pressured this way.

[–]julesburm1891 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The hate for our old sub astounds me. The purpose of our sub was: 1. Gay people are gay. 2. Bi people are attracted to both sexes. 3. Homophobia and biphobia aren’t cool. 4. No one is entitled to sex or dating. Respect others’ boundaries.

It’s incredibly reasonable and I think the overwhelming majority of people agree with those sentiments. But, for whatever reason, sensible people lose their ever-loving minds whenever trans people enter the equation. “Gay people are gay” is accepted until trans people turn up. Then “gay people are gay” is hate speech.

[–]fuck_reddit 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It would be fun if it was like a game/poll so you could guess and see if you were right, and then see how many other people got it right or wrong.