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[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Hear, hear. Yeah, when trans people are forever whining about "chasers", why should they think that gay MEN wanna be fetishized, either? It's insulting and demoralizing. Particularly since the fetishizers are people that you can't be remotely attracted to BY DEFINITION!

I'm sure that this is especially horrible for you, since it no doubt feels like a fucking conversion-therapy flashback. Because that's really what it is. Except now backed by the very individuals and organizations who steadfastly oppose the traditional kind! Truly like something out of a nightmare.

I hope you can at least find some support here, Smolders, and that it helps. Recently, I had a comment on AskGayBros outlining what seems like an effective self-defense argument for you guys-- it's deliberately non-confrontational (so as not to make the shitheads even MORE aggressive), but pretty airtight. May be successful in warding the Gaydens off. Of course I'm sorry that you even have to... but perhaps it's some comfort to know that, with this, you potentially could? And that a non-gay person came up with it cuz she's in your corner? :)

[–]8bitgay 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah, when trans people are forever whining about "chasers", why should they think that gay MEN wanna be fetishized, either? It's insulting and demoralizing.

This is so obvious yet I never realized it. But you're right. We're being fetishized for our ability of validating them.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 19 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

We're being fetishized for our ability of validating them.

So well-put! Yes: that's it exactly. Gay men are being used as props in the service of these fetishists' creepy delusion. That you guys couldn't be less interested in them if you tried is irrelevant. It's all about THEIR precious fee-fees... and, in particular, their demand for a guy who's exclusively male-attracted, so if he fucks 'em if MUST mean they're 100% Real ManTM ! Yeah, no way is it because their harassment and guilt-tripping and hordes of flying-monkey wokesters FORCED him or anything! Who even cares about stuff like being canceled and death threats, right?

I wish there was some way these horrid women could be convinced that, if their rapist ambitions are realized... HE'S NO LONGER GAY. She de-gayed him! Well, what self-respecting Gayden wants that? Defeats the whole purpose! So better leave the gay men alone, then. Wouldn't wanna make their fantasy-fodder go extinct, now would they?

Of course, they should REALLY stop this shit just cuz it's, yanno, evil... but that's probably too much to ask :(

[–]reluctant_commenter 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It must not be that obvious because your way of putting it helped me realize it! Thank you.

Ugh. Yet another reason why I don't want come out.

[–]8bitgay 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Cheering for you, hope you manage to come out eventually. The LGBT community might be full of TRAs, but there are still plenty of actual LGB people out there. Feel free to send a message if you need someone to talk!

[–]reluctant_commenter 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you, I appreciate it. And I might take you up on that later today if you don't mind.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yep they’re not claiming to be attracted to men generally but gay men specifically. It’s the gay aspect they’re fetishizing. Whereas we actually gay and bisexual people are attracted to members of the same sex regardless of their sexual orientation, though obviously we’re not creepy, fetishizing, and entitled enough to pursue heterosexual members of the same sex.

And it’s so backwards because it’s their fetish for gay men that they think is a sign they’re gay men, when gay men don’t work like that at all.