PinkNews CEO, Ben Cohen, gets Stonewall Vet and Gay Pride founder suspended from Twitter. Says he's "proud" of doing so.

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[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 54 insightful - 3 fun54 insightful - 2 fun55 insightful - 3 fun -  (20 children)

If you are an adult and you think gloating on Twitter about getting another person's account suspended makes you look good, I think you really need to grow up. I'm having a hard time verbalizing my feelings without using woke-words and phrases like 'yikes!' 'not a good look!' and 'gross!' Is this person a real gay man, or an Aiden? If he's a gay man, then I'm amazed at how he could do other gay men dirty like this. If she's an Aiden, then I'm not surprised at all. They feel no brotherhood with other men because they will never be men.

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

He's not an Aiden.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 20 insightful - 2 fun20 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

Damn, I really hoped that he was. I don't understand what gay men would gain from doing this?

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 46 insightful - 6 fun46 insightful - 5 fun47 insightful - 6 fun -  (15 children)

Oh, because he's an asshole. He also rubbed women the wrong way (the few who haven't yet been banned from twitter) when talking about his and his partners surrogacy goals. He stated something to the effect that he and his partner "deserved" government funded surrogacy since their inability to have a child is a "health care" concern, or something to that effect. Apparently the UK government should just have it's own stable of uteruses available for pretentious gay assholes. Wait, found the thread... https://twitter.com/benjamincohen/status/1308382964439539712

And this is the same guy who thinks twaw. Wonder why he didn't find a lovely transwoman to be his surrogate?

[–]Finnegan7921 34 insightful - 6 fun34 insightful - 5 fun35 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Their TWAW argument collapses so quickly. "Why not use a transwoman?"...they respond with "some women are infertile can cannot get pregnant"....but never acknowledge that no transwoman can get pregnant.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 21 insightful - 4 fun21 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Their TWAW argument collapses so quickly. "Why not use a transwoman?"...they respond with "some women are infertile can cannot get pregnant"....but never acknowledge that no transwoman can get pregnant.

Yeah, and I wish we had the opportunity to follow up with, "but MOST women of reproductive age are fertile and can get pregnant, so that must include transwomen, right? TWAW after all!" And, to REALLY make their heads explode, add: "and many transwomen have biological children, so how can they be infertile? That means there must be some OTHER reason why they can't get pregnant! Gee, what could that possibly be, do you think?" [innocent look]

And really, going by their "logic"-- that being incapable of reproducing as the opposite sex constitutes infertility... aren't we ALL infertile? Like, every single human who ever lived? Including the ones with biological kids by the boatload? Plus more on the way? How does THAT make sense?

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah, I don't like to mix my feminist views with my LGB views, but honestly, I'm totally against women being baby-factories. There are millions of kids who need adopting. And we can't even make a quip about renting out a uterus, because apparently this surrogate is supposed to be doing this for free? I don't know why but that bothers me even more. If the woman is going to put her life at risk (all pregnancies have this potential) and suffer through the body-horror of birth-giving, at least she should have compensation. (I can see from the tweet that this is a UK law issue, I'm just ranting because I have fee-fees about this.) I'm a woman who's chosen to never give birth or have kids, and I think deep down I believe that giving birth is a horror no woman should ever have to go through, even though objectively I understand that many women want to do it. So obviously this is coloring my opinions.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 31 insightful - 2 fun31 insightful - 1 fun32 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

(I can see from the tweet that this is a UK law issue, I'm just ranting because I have fee-fees about this.) I'm a woman who's chosen to never give birth or have kids, and I think deep down I believe that giving birth is a horror no woman should ever have to go through, even though objectively I understand that many women want to do it. So obviously this is coloring my opinions.

I 100% agree with you that surrogacy is a massive human rights violation. It should be banned, full stop. The fact that pregnancy wrecks your health, not even mentioning the emotional toll of giving up a child, is something that should never be commodified. I say that as a woman who wants to have my own children in the future.

But apparently we're living in Brave New World hell where horrors like surrogacy exist and are supported by the "left" as a "lgbt" issue.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I 100% agree with you that surrogacy is a massive human rights violation. It should be banned, full stop. The fact that pregnancy wrecks your health, not even mentioning the emotional toll of giving up a child, is something that should never be commodified. I say that as a woman who wants to have my own children in the future.

100%. Nobody is entitled to having a child. We already as a species fail to take care of our companion animals; just look at the sheer number of animal shelters with abandoned pets. We absolutely fail at taking care of both vulnerable pets and children as a society in general. The idea of a human child being treated as a commodity that a gay couple is entitled to is not acceptable, especially given the sheer number of kids who are in need of adoption already.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I’m a man and it would be nice to have biological children of my own. But I still find surrogacy to be wrong. There are concerns about the natural dangers of pregnancy as well as my Catholic background, but my main concern is the child being separated from the woman who gave birth to him. Let’s not forget that what if the child falls in love with one of his surrogate mother’s own children or one of her nieces or nephews? There’s a reason why a lot of people have concerns about people having children outside of established relationships. Not to mention the fact that if my hypothetical husband and I became fathers through surrogacy, only one of us gets to be the biological father of the child. Even if we have two children through surrogacy, one from each of our sperm, each individual child will be the child of only one of us. This could lead to favourites.

Personally, I’d prefer to adopt. Also, my brother and sister can have their own kids, so I can always be there to help them raise my nieces and nephews. Not an uncle yet, but I’d love to be one.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 21 insightful - 4 fun21 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Totally. Surrogacy is totally immoral. Women used as a baby making machine for some rich couples. It's too much capitalism. I'm only child, I'd love to be an aunt too. I'm not into parenting, but being an aunt,playing videogames with them , taking themto disneyland and shit like that. That would have been cool.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Men not being able to get pregnant is not at all a disability. It’s a feature of biology. Being able to have children through surrogacy is a privilege, not a right. The surrogate mother has to agree to be a surrogate. In fact, I’m against surrogacy because it involves taking the mother away from the child.

[–]denverkrisMy pronouns are Vodka?/Yes!/please 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I completely agree. As I said, he's an asshole.

[–]reluctant_commenter 20 insightful - 7 fun20 insightful - 6 fun21 insightful - 7 fun -  (4 children)

Wonder why he didn't find a lovely transwoman to be his surrogate?

LOL. I would love to hear someone ask him that.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Fred Sargeant did ask him that, that's why Ben had to report him and get him banned off Twitter. He also asked him why he didn't find a nice transman to marry, since TMAM

[–]reluctant_commenter 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Oh so that's what happened. Wow. Well good for Fred Sergeant. I can't believe even asking that question is enough to get you banned.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Fred Sargeant is both a historical legend and a modern legend. Twitter just needs to be deleted at this point

[–]PassionateIntensity 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

ZING! No wonder Ben needed to cry to TechDaddy to make it stop.

[–]fuck_reddit 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

"IVF isn't paid for by the government by gay men" well that's cause there isn't a womb between the two of them to... fertilize... apples and oranges must be really hard to distinguish for this genius...

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 28 insightful - 3 fun28 insightful - 2 fun29 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

He’s a turncoat. A sellout. A traitor. He’s in it for himself. He thinks he won’t ever get harassed into dating FTMs and he also thinks that his husband will never consider becoming trans. So he thinks that the only consequences of his behaviour are more money and additional virtue signal points.

[–]PassionateIntensity 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Cohen is a surrogacy/"queer reproductive rights" advocate. I'm convinced he's literally trying to get women's rights erased so he can buy and sell babies and wombs.