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[–]homosomes 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I've literally never seen radical feminists say anything like that. Most radfems have issues (white and otherwise) take issue with people using the word "white" to get away with being sexist because there's a trend of it being socially acceptable in leftist/liberal circles to hate on women as long as you throw "white" in front of it. There are so many popular tweets floating around by men talking about how much they want to beat up or kill (white) women and everyone cheers like it's progressive. Contrary to popular belief, a lot of nonwhite radfems and gender critical women of color have commented on this trend. Like how it's usually done by hypocritical men and liberal feminists who have no problem being racist or abusive towards minority women that don't believe in TRA rhetoric.

I have certain critiques of radfems and their beliefs too, but making stuff up about what they believe in because you dislike them is dumb. Of all the modern feminist subgroups radical feminists tend listen to and defend lesbians the most in my experience. (At least the radfems who don't beleive in political lesbianism do. But that is a rant for another day....)

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I've literally never seen radical feminists say anything like that. Most radfems have issues (white and otherwise) take issue with people using the word "white" to get away with being sexist because there's a trend of it being socially acceptable in leftist/liberal circles to hate on women as long as you throw "white" in front of it.

I find a lot of White women use claims of sexism to avoid dealing with the reality of consequences of the privilege they weild against POC. Saying you can't criticize White women for wielding their privilege ignores the explicit role White women, White feminism, and White feminism has in maintaining systems of oppression against other marginalized communities.

A prime example is the US educational system, which was built and designed by white people for the success of white people, and is largely managed by White women.

https://www.panafricanalliance.com/forced-school-busing/?noamp=mobile

Contrary to popular belief, a lot of nonwhite radfems and gender critical women of color have commented on this trend.

I disagree with this phrasing, simply because there are very few gender-crit radfems, and in terms of organized ramfem movements, there is very little WOC representation.

[–]homosomes 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I disagree with this phrasing, simply because there are very few gender-crit radfems, and in terms of organized ramfem movements, there is very little WOC representation.

I'm not going to sit here and argue with you after posting this comment because I frankly don't have the energy and don't think you're arguing in good faith, but this line right here shows that you do not seem to understand that radical feminists are by nature gender critical. Also, WOC are a minority in Anglophone radfem spaces. But that does not mean that radical feminism is unknown to WOC. South Korea is a prime example. Their radical feminist movement is huge. The radfem movement throughout Latin America is also growing. In fact, outside of the western world the aims of feminists throughout the world are more akin to radical feminism (fighting sex-based oppression of females) than any other.

I don't believe the term "white feminism" is useful. Can white women be racist? Yes. Does that mean white women are exempt from experiencing sexism? No. As a WOC it's annoying to see people claim that feminists like the Nigerian Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie are "white feminists" simply because they do not believe in gender, or because they see how self-ID can easily be exploited. That tells you how the concept of "white feminism" is just used to shut women up.

Guessing from your name and recent post history that you're a trans person trying to convince us here to change positions. I will save you some time: it's probably not going to happen. We've been abused, gaslit, and harassed by the trans community for too long.

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Also, WOC are a minority in Anglophone radfem spaces.

South Korea

Latin America

So basically what you're saying is "The voices of WOC are important when they don't infringe on my own right to marginalize others for my own comfort".

We've been abused, gaslit, and harassed by the trans community for too long.

The racist crocodile tears of your movement fail to move me.