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[–]Happy_face_caller 34 insightful - 1 fun34 insightful - 0 fun35 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Gay males are overwhelmingly the biggest victims of violent hate crimes so this for sure makes sense

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 24 insightful - 13 fun24 insightful - 12 fun25 insightful - 13 fun -  (6 children)

But what about the Trans Holocaust we hear so much about?

People wouldn't lie about that, would they?

[–]Happy_face_caller 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah nah.

I mean the stats don’t lie. Ask them why so many trans murders aren’t marked as hate crimes. Most of them are from fellow trans.

Gay men however that’s stranger violence and a serious issue.

If you say that in LGBT circles you will be dogpiled.

[–]homosomes 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I mean the stats don’t lie. Ask them why so many trans murders aren’t marked as hate crimes. Most of them are from fellow trans.

Really? I was under the impression that most of the murders of trans people keep citing as proof of the trans "murder epidemic" are based on the information we have on Brazilian transsexuals, who are usually involved in prostitution where they're killed by johns and pimps?

By no means am I saying it's okay that trans people are being murdered. But people who go hard on uncritically shouting "sex work is work!" (a lot of whom are trans people that will never have to see that horror) tend to ignore how dangerous and deadly prostitution is.

[–]Happy_face_caller 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Most trans people are murdered by fellow trans people or its drug deal gone wrong, etc. It happens but rarely is it an actual hate crime, look it up, people aren’t charged with hate crimes in the circumstances.

But when two Gay men are assaulted for holding hands it’s Almost always a stranger and because they are Gay. This isn’t common knowledge? Even the twaw screechers known this i thought

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But people who go hard on uncritically shouting "sex work is work!"

Labor: Providing a good or service in exchange for currency. Dangerous work, work that threatens your well-being, and work that is degrading, humiliating, or even ILLEGAL, is still work.

tend to ignore how dangerous and deadly prostitution is.

QUESTION: If prostitution is so dangerous and deadly, why are so many trans women involved in it? Why not simply get a different job that is safer and pays more?

[–]homosomes 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Ah, you again. My friend, I'm not saying that "sex work" does not literally fall under the definition of labor. I'm saying that the people encouraging the "sex work" are directly promoting an industry where violence, abuse, sex trafficking, and literal slavery is the norm. It does not take a genius to understand statistics of why 9 in 10 sex workers surveyed want out. But there is so much propaganda pushed by pimps and madams that people just swallow the happy hooker fantasy wholesale. And people want to whitewash what really happens and silence those who've exited sex work exposing the realities. I really wish people uncritically shouting "just let people do sex work!" would use their brains.

Why does anyone get into sex work? They were coerced, they were groomed, they were trafficked, they were desperate and had no other source of income. I don't think anyone, trans or not, should have to be in such a degrading and dangerous line of work. If people really care about someone who is straining for money, the solution is to help them not put your genitals in their face.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

they were desperate and had no other source of income.

WHY DO YOU THINK TRANS PEOPLE DONT HAVE ANOTHER SOURCE OF INCOME?

YOU ARE SO CLOSE