Another trans widow: Elliot Page and Emma Portner divorcing

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[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 32 insightful - 27 fun32 insightful - 26 fun33 insightful - 27 fun -  (0 children)

They used a very manly looking picture of elliot there

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 38 insightful - 5 fun38 insightful - 4 fun39 insightful - 5 fun -  (15 children)

Wasn't this the same woman that convinced her to become a man in the first place? Why would they suddenly want a divorce?

[–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 41 insightful - 6 fun41 insightful - 5 fun42 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

If Emma is anything like the people I've dealt with that same dead-inside psycho look, it's just another act of control and sadism. Even if Page never goes under the knife or takes hormones, even if TRAs were totally forgiving and tolerant of people that detrans, Emma has the knowledge that she's talked another human being into changing her personal life and history forever only to immediately dump her. Ruin, scar, mutilate, isolate and discard. That kind of sick shit gets these people off like nothing else.

[–]reluctant_commenter 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was going to try to say something like this but you put it very well so I'll just say I agree. While we can't know for sure what's going on... that would be my guess.

[–]marmorsymphata 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Page is the one divorcing Portner, not the other way around

[–]LilianH 25 insightful - 3 fun25 insightful - 2 fun26 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

Based on their statement they separated prior to Ellen coming out as trans. That doesn't sound to me like she was that supportive in private.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

That makes sense to me. If I had a husband and he told me he wanted to become a woman, I’d file for divorce without hesitation. I know he will never ever be a woman, but it’s too much energy to go along with someone’s delusions, let alone stay married to someone like that.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

It is Ellen/Elliot who is filing divorce, thought, and wanted to file a divorce since summer. And Emma planning to challenge it in court. So it is not as clear or one-sided.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gotcha. If Ellen is the one filing for divorce, hopefully after a few years she goes back to being a lesbian named Ellen.

[–]lavender_menace 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Wait a sec Ellen’s wife wants to try and force Ellen into staying?

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

contesting a divorce just means she wants to contest some aspect of the divorce. Example: if Ellen claimed Emma cheated on her, and divorced her on grounds of adultery, Ellen wouldn't have to share money/property w/ Emma. If Emma contested (in that made up scenario) she could say she never cheated, and claim half the property of the couple.

[–]reluctant_commenter 8 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

Living up to that flair! Thanks for explaining lol.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

No problemo! LOL I'm glad y'all find me helpful!

[–]lavender_menace 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah. Thank you for explaining.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe she want to divide joint property, dunno.

[–]MyLongestJourney 24 insightful - 3 fun24 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Wasn't this the same woman that convinced her to become a man in the first place?

This is pure speculation.

[–]reluctant_commenter 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, we don't know this for sure, even if it is a reasonable possibility.

[–]Seahorse 32 insightful - 6 fun32 insightful - 5 fun33 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

Wife appeared woke af but it's very different from actually experiencing it.

Says the divorce is contested which is interesting, means it's going to get messy.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Challenged? This means that Emma do not want to get divorced, while Ellen want?

[–]Seahorse 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes that's right.

Or it could be to do with possessions and things maybe.

But that being said I read that on datalounge I have no idea where they go their info🤣 so grain of salt.

[–]Rag3 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Woke on the streets, TERF in the sheets lol.

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah[S] 22 insightful - 19 fun22 insightful - 18 fun23 insightful - 19 fun -  (2 children)

Is Elliot about to announce “he” is now a gay man and expects to be included in your dating pool?

[–]lazy-summer-godSuper Gay 18 insightful - 10 fun18 insightful - 9 fun19 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

Well, good luck with that, Elliot.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most likely not, she was clear lesbian, while Emma had no history with women before Ellen, and she said that her sexuality is "as fluid as it can be" (bisexual maybe? Or just saying fluid for woke points?), whatever that means.

[–]sadbihours 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Not even surprised.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 22 insightful - 10 fun22 insightful - 9 fun23 insightful - 10 fun -  (0 children)

That was fast.

[–]chazzstrong 22 insightful - 9 fun22 insightful - 8 fun23 insightful - 9 fun -  (10 children)

I already see how this panned out...
Elliot: What do you MEAN you want a divorce? I became a man, just like you wanted!
Emma: But I'm a lesbian, Elliot. I don't WANT a man.

Getting serious Clayton Bigsby shade from this.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 24 insightful - 4 fun24 insightful - 3 fun25 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

Isn't Emma was calling herself fluid and said that "my identity is unusual and it is not to disclose publicly", while being very supportive of transgenders? And Ellen never said she is a man, she said she is "not a woman, just trans" with "he/they" pronouns, she stopped using any social media after declaring of being a trans. Plus article is stating that Ellen was trying to divorce for 6 months already, so long before transing.

Situation is very strange.

[–]chazzstrong 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Probably. I'll admit, I have no clue who Emma is, and I'm not a 'celebrity' person so I know nothing about their relationship. I just feel like Elliot never really looks happy or in control. Every picture I saw of them together when they were in the news, it looked like the only thing missing was a leash around her neck feeding into her wife's hands.
She always struck me as the 'whatever makes you happy' type, you know?

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, Emma always was looking so in control and so cold, while Ellen was always so cherishing and happy, but after they got married, each month Ellen mood and personality was going into decline, with her appearance on social media less and less. I would not be surprised if transing to an "anything but the woman" was last try of Ellen to save the marriage (considering how cold and not personal her "come out" was, and how neutral she was after - unlike her coming out as lesbian, when she was very happy, open and it was very personal). Of course, it could be the opposite, she could become depressed and harass Emma - but it is very unlikely, Ellen never was such person and always was very open.

Emma never had a history with women before Page too, she said that she is fluid sexuality (bisexual, I guess?) few times, and she was very closed person. Challenging divorce is a very controlling move as well, most abusers are doing so in heterosexual marriages. So I am not sure what to think - I am more on a side of Ellen, to be honest.

I thought that Ellen and Emma should divorce in 2018-2019 already, and all this mess only proved my thoughts that Ellen is very unhappy in marriage. Now it is different, thought, as Emma is getting harassed for two things, from two opposite sides - "making Ellen betray lesbians" and for "being transphobic and leaving trans". So she isn't very happy either.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

This is total speculation though. Maybe Emma is the normal one and Ellen was just a very needy/emotionally unstable spouse. Some people are like emotional vacuums, always demanding emotional support and never giving. It's completely possible that Emma just doesn't like cameras so doesn't photograph well, and got sick of being with mentally ill wife.

[–]Seahorse 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I know I've read about the wife so called transing Ellen and I don't believe it.

Ellen has been firmly on the TRA wagon for years.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don’t get the impression Emma is a lesbian. It’s not even clear she’s particularly into women.

[–]chazzstrong 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I mean...I know Elliot thinks she's a man and all because she wears pants or something, but she in no-way looks masculine, or even androgynous. She'd have to at-least be into women somewhat, unless it was all a power play for clout.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean their relationship was short, mostly very private, and the photos that exist do not depict Emma having any interest in or warmth toward Page. I’m a lesbian who was married to a man before coming out. People can get into relationships contrary to their sexual orientation for all kinds of reasons. And in this case, money and power are strong motivators.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She does not "came out" as a man, thought. She came out as "trans with he/they" pronouns. It was "anything, but the woman", and not "I am a man".

[–]reluctant_commenter 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She'd have to at-least be into women somewhat, unless it was all a power play for clout.

Wouldn't be surprised if it were superficial, heterosexual actors and actresses get into superficial relationships to show off to the press all the time.

[–]SnowAssMan 19 insightful - 6 fun19 insightful - 5 fun20 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I guess having a lesbian wife wasn't affirming enough. Cult behaviour.

[–]BryGuy 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

*Ellen.