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[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 34 insightful - 3 fun34 insightful - 2 fun35 insightful - 3 fun -  (25 children)

To be honest, I agree with you.

I was never very active in the gender critical / LGB parts of Reddit. I moderated a couple of subreddits around niche interests, and for the brief period where I was part of Reddit (about two years) I was a very active Redditor, spending hours every day falling down this rabbit hole or that rabbit hole. If you avoided the default subs, you could get away from divisive US (let's be honest) politics. Looking at peoples' collections of fountain pens, or discussing why my croissants were chewy, or asking what language that sign in the back of that film was in were all excellent ways to while away the time.


I noticed that this all changed in around February 2020. The US election was doing whatever it does at that time of year (Caucuses? Primaries? Town hall? Whatever the first stage is called) and things were not going well for Bernie Sanders. Reddit, apparently, couldn't hack that. Couple that with the escalating COVID-19 pandemic, and you had a perfect storm of political bullshit, and it was everywhere.

Donald Trump is single-handedly murdering American citizens, but if Bernie had been president not a single American would have died or lost their job, poverty would be eradicated and American citizens of all classes, creeds and colours would have joined arms in a spirit of brotherhood and danced in a circle around the Capitol building singing 'All you need is love.'

Okay, /u/FeelTheBern2020, but I came here to talk about The Booker Prize winners. I don't care about Trump, keep that in the politics-aligned subreddits, please.

LOL Karen can't get a haircut why is she protesting in the middle of a pandemic what a selfish fat hick look at those DOMESTIC TRRRISTS outside the Michigan (?) capitol building they should all be shot why arent the police arresting them

Then, of course, George Floyd died and Reddit went into full All Cops are Bastards, Riots are the language of the Unheard, Property can be replaced but lives can't, woke meltdown. Rioting was valorised as a noble act, speaking truth to power. Burning down a police station (regardless of whether people were inside or not) was perfectly acceptable under the circumstances.

Don't post about it on social media, otherwise the pigs will know where you are! Let's cordon off an area of Seattle and secede from the United States so we can create the Black Utopia this is all in service of. The deaths of nineteen people, thousands of arrests and literally billions of dollars in property damage are all perfectly justifiable as long as I agree with the people doing it.

The notion that protesting during a pandemic was selfish very quickly evaporated.

But what's this?

Some right-wing people are using the 'fiery but mostly peaceful' protests as cover to cause trouble? This is outrageous. These 'peaceful protests' have been taken over by white supremacists, and all the rioting was their fault! Rioting is wrong! Destruction of black-owned business is wrong! People I don't agree with aren't allowed to riot!

And then came the purge, and my last fuck about Reddit went up in the smoke of that police station.

In answer to your question, I don't know what caused Reddit to turn into the cesspit that it is today. It's possible that funding from Tencent contributed to that, but the amount of anti-China bullshit that was floating around there would seem to suggest otherwise.

I think Reddit, like other platforms (Facebook, Twitter etc.) felt empowered to take ownership of the public square.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I’ve noticed that too. Especially with regards to the COVID-19 pandemic. First, Reddit was condemning people who suggested closing the borders to prevent the pandemic from getting into other countries until we know for sure how deadly the virus is. Then Reddit was lashing out at people for opposing the lockdowns and attacks on civil liberties, calling people selfish. Even though people were losing their jobs, people couldn’t pay their bills and small businesses were going bankrupt. That didn’t matter to Reddit. Then George Floyd happened, and all of a sudden Reddit forgot that COVID existed for a few months, and also jumped on the ACAB bandwagon. Now Reddit is back to lashing out at people who are against the lockdowns, despite the fact that they supported the protests that accelerated the spread of the virus a few months previously. Now that Trump is gone and Biden is in the White House, Reddit now all of a sudden loves the police and the military. Reddit is now comprised of lunatics. Being woke is a mental illness. We’re now in the dark ages, except that this time most people understand that Earth is round.

Reddit is based in California. So are Facebook, Twitter, Apple, Google and Amazon. And these sites are censoring people. Silencing people. What do you call it when big corporations engage in authoritarian behaviour but not the government? Fascism. Yes, that’s right, fascism. And Antifa, who claim to be anti-fascist, are supporting this. Yes, they’re communists, but they are working for fascists and they don’t even see it. Both communism (including Marxism) and fascism (including nazism) are dangerous. But getting back to California, what the fuck is up with this state?

[–]chupacabrawitchI'm super thanks for asking 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's kinda funny how the hive mind can do a total 180, especially in regards to the police and the whole antifa thing. Like hypocrisy much? You can tell they are going uber left when they criticize centrists and saying moderates are too "far-right".... There's definitely something going on with the moderation of the site, I don't even recognize it anymore, nothing's what it used to be and they're not even being subtle about narratives being pushed. I noticed it when the lesbian subs got taken over. I stopped following the lgbt sub when my last straw was seeing a post about the military and everyone was going off hating on them...

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Amazon is based in Washington. I assume the others are based in Silicon Valley, and their local woke employees probably largely live or lived at some point in San Francisco, ground zero for this genderfuckery.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

You’re right. I think Amazon and Microsoft are headquartered around the outskirts of Seattle. Seattle is the San Francisco of Washington State.

[–]bopomofodojo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Bingo. The wokeness in big tech did not come from without but from within. It started festering in the tech industry long before 2020. Even as far back as 2014 when this was still confined to Tumblr, the new software grads were lapping that shit up and going to work in SV tech, both at startups and at the big companies. It was inevitable.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The Wokeness in Big Tech was accelerated around 2016 and 2017. Partly because of Trump, but also because of the Skeptic Community promoting this app called Candid, for which Skeptics got paid sponsorship money for. Candid has AI technologies to track people and it was used to go after people who opposed woke culture. That’s right. Skeptics who opposed SJWs ended up helping SJWs without realising it until it was too late. Thanks MundaneMatt.

[–]bopomofodojo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Interesting, I knew about the acceleration of course (I have a previous comment about Trump becoming the anti-woke boogeyman that "unified" the "left" SJWs), but had no idea about Candid - sounds like the kind of foot-shooting I'd expect from the "Skeptic community".

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Skeptics are a shower of wankers. Also, not sceptical at all. They fell for the Candid scam hook, line and sinker, because it’s all about their egos. They became a community after Gamergate, and between 2014 and 2017 they grew rapidly as they criticised feminism and Islamic fundamentalism. Then in late 2017, it came out that some members of the Skeptic Community were hosting servers of YouTubers they wanted to dox. Skeptics like Kraut and Tea, Jeff Holiday and Based Mama were running that server. It later came out that Candid was a scam, and one former Skeptic by the name of Harmful Opinions exposed Candid. He got harassed by other Skeptics like MundaneMatt for this. The Skeptics organised a free speech conference in Kilroy for April 2018, but the conference was exposed as a scam in December 2017 after it was revealed that YouTubers who were advertised as speaking the event were banned from the event for having views that Based Mama didn’t like. And that was end of the Skeptics. And it still got worse, when it came out in August 2018 that MundaneMatt was flagging down channels of YouTubers who criticised him over Candid.

So where are the Skeptics at now? The ones that were actually good, like Andy Warski, Bearing, Ethan Ralph, Dave Cullen and Mister Metokur (he was affiliated with the crowd but not really a part of it) have distanced themselves from the Skeptics. They no longer support Trump, by the way. MundaneMatt still has a channel, but his videos are about him going to Walmart to review Blu-ray boxes (I’m not making this up). Kraft and Tea likes to get hit in the crotch every now and then. Jeff Holiday let’s his wife cheat on him and has an expansive dildo collection that his stepson is fully aware of. Sargon of Akkad tried to run in the European Parliament elections and not only did he fail, he destroyed UKIP. David Sherratt went to America to woo a girl he had a crush on, only for this girl to be busy and only be available to hang out with him for one day out of the whole week he was in the States - when she explained to him that her grandmother was dying, David Sherratt said he was hoping she’d "put in a little more effort". The Skeptic Community was like the Titanic, really.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I noticed that this all changed in around February 2020.

(Un)coincidentally February 2020 is when I peaked. I found r/LGBDroptheT that month and it felt like a refuge from what I had been seeing in gay, women’s, and liberal subreddits.

Before then I was on r/politics a lot, for years really, and can confirm that the Bernie propaganda and delusions and obsession with supposed ideological purity were getting unbearable. Every other Democratic candidate was being painted as a functional conservative, especially Kamala Harris.

[–]akkordeonplayer 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I noticed the change around the first of the fiscal year-- around July 2020. Suddenly there was obvious political pandering to one side of the US political spectrum. As someone who was normally left wing, I thought this was highly suspicious... and I was really pissed off when I realized that anyone who disagreed with gender extremism was suddenly designated a "Neo nazi". Not long after that, all the other social media platforms when all-out in banning people for simply not being "woke" enough.

[–]censorshipment 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (14 children)

Reddit has an announcements subreddit that every member is subscribed to by default (if you leave, you miss important upcoming changes).

9 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/g0s6tn/changes_to_reddits_political_ads_policy/

7 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/gxas21/upcoming_changes_to_our_content_policy_our_board/

7 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/hi3oht/update_to_our_content_policy/

4 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/ipitt0/today_were_testing_a_new_way_to_discuss_political/

There's also https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/ which I think everyone should subscribe by default to see how Reddit is empowering (leftwing) mods to censor/ban whatever/whoever they want.

7 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/gw5dj5/remember_the_human_an_update_on_our_commitments/

7 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/hi3nkr/the_mod_conversations_that_went_into_todays/

6 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/hunyxh/have_questions_on_our_new_hate_speech_policy_im/

A black female moderator said she was personally asked to help Reddit with their policy (for BLM and misogynistic stuff, I assume) a few weeks before the 2000+ subreddits were banned. You may miss this information if you're a white guy since they were asking women (libfems) and minorities for policy help.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You may miss this information if you're a white guy since they were asking women (libfems) and minorities for policy help.

They haven't asked lesbians for sure.

[–]censorshipment 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

Most lesbians there are TRA libfems or not into politics.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Or they asked "lesbians on /r/AL", you know the "male" ones. As almost all lesbians I know were banned for speaking anything about being lesbian or being attracted to women only. Almost all lesbian subs were banned, escept ones "free for all" or full porn subs, so yeah~

[–]censorshipment 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Is she dating and sleeping with transes? Or as always "terf in home, tra in public, coerce others, but be disgusted yourself"?

[–]censorshipment 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

Lol I'm not sure. As I always say, this transbian shit is a white thing. We black lesbians don't have to deal with it personally, unless you're into dating white women.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I guess depending on place it can make sense, as majority of AGP "transbians" on youtube and other places are middle aged middle class white privileged men, especially in UK or Canada. However, in USA most of AGP in sports are black or latino men. It looks like it affects everyone in middle class (as Trans Widows have a lot of black women there, who's husbands became AGP). I suppose it differs from state to state as well.

[–]akkordeonplayer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m not a man, but don’t worry, I don’t collapse when I’m “misgendered”! They weren’t recruiting on any subs I visited, and god knows they would have banned me anyway.