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[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 34 insightful - 3 fun34 insightful - 2 fun35 insightful - 3 fun -  (25 children)

To be honest, I agree with you.

I was never very active in the gender critical / LGB parts of Reddit. I moderated a couple of subreddits around niche interests, and for the brief period where I was part of Reddit (about two years) I was a very active Redditor, spending hours every day falling down this rabbit hole or that rabbit hole. If you avoided the default subs, you could get away from divisive US (let's be honest) politics. Looking at peoples' collections of fountain pens, or discussing why my croissants were chewy, or asking what language that sign in the back of that film was in were all excellent ways to while away the time.


I noticed that this all changed in around February 2020. The US election was doing whatever it does at that time of year (Caucuses? Primaries? Town hall? Whatever the first stage is called) and things were not going well for Bernie Sanders. Reddit, apparently, couldn't hack that. Couple that with the escalating COVID-19 pandemic, and you had a perfect storm of political bullshit, and it was everywhere.

Donald Trump is single-handedly murdering American citizens, but if Bernie had been president not a single American would have died or lost their job, poverty would be eradicated and American citizens of all classes, creeds and colours would have joined arms in a spirit of brotherhood and danced in a circle around the Capitol building singing 'All you need is love.'

Okay, /u/FeelTheBern2020, but I came here to talk about The Booker Prize winners. I don't care about Trump, keep that in the politics-aligned subreddits, please.

LOL Karen can't get a haircut why is she protesting in the middle of a pandemic what a selfish fat hick look at those DOMESTIC TRRRISTS outside the Michigan (?) capitol building they should all be shot why arent the police arresting them

Then, of course, George Floyd died and Reddit went into full All Cops are Bastards, Riots are the language of the Unheard, Property can be replaced but lives can't, woke meltdown. Rioting was valorised as a noble act, speaking truth to power. Burning down a police station (regardless of whether people were inside or not) was perfectly acceptable under the circumstances.

Don't post about it on social media, otherwise the pigs will know where you are! Let's cordon off an area of Seattle and secede from the United States so we can create the Black Utopia this is all in service of. The deaths of nineteen people, thousands of arrests and literally billions of dollars in property damage are all perfectly justifiable as long as I agree with the people doing it.

The notion that protesting during a pandemic was selfish very quickly evaporated.

But what's this?

Some right-wing people are using the 'fiery but mostly peaceful' protests as cover to cause trouble? This is outrageous. These 'peaceful protests' have been taken over by white supremacists, and all the rioting was their fault! Rioting is wrong! Destruction of black-owned business is wrong! People I don't agree with aren't allowed to riot!

And then came the purge, and my last fuck about Reddit went up in the smoke of that police station.

In answer to your question, I don't know what caused Reddit to turn into the cesspit that it is today. It's possible that funding from Tencent contributed to that, but the amount of anti-China bullshit that was floating around there would seem to suggest otherwise.

I think Reddit, like other platforms (Facebook, Twitter etc.) felt empowered to take ownership of the public square.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 25 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I’ve noticed that too. Especially with regards to the COVID-19 pandemic. First, Reddit was condemning people who suggested closing the borders to prevent the pandemic from getting into other countries until we know for sure how deadly the virus is. Then Reddit was lashing out at people for opposing the lockdowns and attacks on civil liberties, calling people selfish. Even though people were losing their jobs, people couldn’t pay their bills and small businesses were going bankrupt. That didn’t matter to Reddit. Then George Floyd happened, and all of a sudden Reddit forgot that COVID existed for a few months, and also jumped on the ACAB bandwagon. Now Reddit is back to lashing out at people who are against the lockdowns, despite the fact that they supported the protests that accelerated the spread of the virus a few months previously. Now that Trump is gone and Biden is in the White House, Reddit now all of a sudden loves the police and the military. Reddit is now comprised of lunatics. Being woke is a mental illness. We’re now in the dark ages, except that this time most people understand that Earth is round.

Reddit is based in California. So are Facebook, Twitter, Apple, Google and Amazon. And these sites are censoring people. Silencing people. What do you call it when big corporations engage in authoritarian behaviour but not the government? Fascism. Yes, that’s right, fascism. And Antifa, who claim to be anti-fascist, are supporting this. Yes, they’re communists, but they are working for fascists and they don’t even see it. Both communism (including Marxism) and fascism (including nazism) are dangerous. But getting back to California, what the fuck is up with this state?

[–]chupacabrawitchI'm super thanks for asking 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it's kinda funny how the hive mind can do a total 180, especially in regards to the police and the whole antifa thing. Like hypocrisy much? You can tell they are going uber left when they criticize centrists and saying moderates are too "far-right".... There's definitely something going on with the moderation of the site, I don't even recognize it anymore, nothing's what it used to be and they're not even being subtle about narratives being pushed. I noticed it when the lesbian subs got taken over. I stopped following the lgbt sub when my last straw was seeing a post about the military and everyone was going off hating on them...

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Amazon is based in Washington. I assume the others are based in Silicon Valley, and their local woke employees probably largely live or lived at some point in San Francisco, ground zero for this genderfuckery.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

You’re right. I think Amazon and Microsoft are headquartered around the outskirts of Seattle. Seattle is the San Francisco of Washington State.

[–]bopomofodojo 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Bingo. The wokeness in big tech did not come from without but from within. It started festering in the tech industry long before 2020. Even as far back as 2014 when this was still confined to Tumblr, the new software grads were lapping that shit up and going to work in SV tech, both at startups and at the big companies. It was inevitable.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The Wokeness in Big Tech was accelerated around 2016 and 2017. Partly because of Trump, but also because of the Skeptic Community promoting this app called Candid, for which Skeptics got paid sponsorship money for. Candid has AI technologies to track people and it was used to go after people who opposed woke culture. That’s right. Skeptics who opposed SJWs ended up helping SJWs without realising it until it was too late. Thanks MundaneMatt.

[–]bopomofodojo 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Interesting, I knew about the acceleration of course (I have a previous comment about Trump becoming the anti-woke boogeyman that "unified" the "left" SJWs), but had no idea about Candid - sounds like the kind of foot-shooting I'd expect from the "Skeptic community".

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Skeptics are a shower of wankers. Also, not sceptical at all. They fell for the Candid scam hook, line and sinker, because it’s all about their egos. They became a community after Gamergate, and between 2014 and 2017 they grew rapidly as they criticised feminism and Islamic fundamentalism. Then in late 2017, it came out that some members of the Skeptic Community were hosting servers of YouTubers they wanted to dox. Skeptics like Kraut and Tea, Jeff Holiday and Based Mama were running that server. It later came out that Candid was a scam, and one former Skeptic by the name of Harmful Opinions exposed Candid. He got harassed by other Skeptics like MundaneMatt for this. The Skeptics organised a free speech conference in Kilroy for April 2018, but the conference was exposed as a scam in December 2017 after it was revealed that YouTubers who were advertised as speaking the event were banned from the event for having views that Based Mama didn’t like. And that was end of the Skeptics. And it still got worse, when it came out in August 2018 that MundaneMatt was flagging down channels of YouTubers who criticised him over Candid.

So where are the Skeptics at now? The ones that were actually good, like Andy Warski, Bearing, Ethan Ralph, Dave Cullen and Mister Metokur (he was affiliated with the crowd but not really a part of it) have distanced themselves from the Skeptics. They no longer support Trump, by the way. MundaneMatt still has a channel, but his videos are about him going to Walmart to review Blu-ray boxes (I’m not making this up). Kraft and Tea likes to get hit in the crotch every now and then. Jeff Holiday let’s his wife cheat on him and has an expansive dildo collection that his stepson is fully aware of. Sargon of Akkad tried to run in the European Parliament elections and not only did he fail, he destroyed UKIP. David Sherratt went to America to woo a girl he had a crush on, only for this girl to be busy and only be available to hang out with him for one day out of the whole week he was in the States - when she explained to him that her grandmother was dying, David Sherratt said he was hoping she’d "put in a little more effort". The Skeptic Community was like the Titanic, really.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I noticed that this all changed in around February 2020.

(Un)coincidentally February 2020 is when I peaked. I found r/LGBDroptheT that month and it felt like a refuge from what I had been seeing in gay, women’s, and liberal subreddits.

Before then I was on r/politics a lot, for years really, and can confirm that the Bernie propaganda and delusions and obsession with supposed ideological purity were getting unbearable. Every other Democratic candidate was being painted as a functional conservative, especially Kamala Harris.

[–]akkordeonplayer 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I noticed the change around the first of the fiscal year-- around July 2020. Suddenly there was obvious political pandering to one side of the US political spectrum. As someone who was normally left wing, I thought this was highly suspicious... and I was really pissed off when I realized that anyone who disagreed with gender extremism was suddenly designated a "Neo nazi". Not long after that, all the other social media platforms when all-out in banning people for simply not being "woke" enough.

[–]censorshipment 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (14 children)

Reddit has an announcements subreddit that every member is subscribed to by default (if you leave, you miss important upcoming changes).

9 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/g0s6tn/changes_to_reddits_political_ads_policy/

7 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/gxas21/upcoming_changes_to_our_content_policy_our_board/

7 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/hi3oht/update_to_our_content_policy/

4 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/ipitt0/today_were_testing_a_new_way_to_discuss_political/

There's also https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/ which I think everyone should subscribe by default to see how Reddit is empowering (leftwing) mods to censor/ban whatever/whoever they want.

7 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/gw5dj5/remember_the_human_an_update_on_our_commitments/

7 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/hi3nkr/the_mod_conversations_that_went_into_todays/

6 months ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/hunyxh/have_questions_on_our_new_hate_speech_policy_im/

A black female moderator said she was personally asked to help Reddit with their policy (for BLM and misogynistic stuff, I assume) a few weeks before the 2000+ subreddits were banned. You may miss this information if you're a white guy since they were asking women (libfems) and minorities for policy help.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You may miss this information if you're a white guy since they were asking women (libfems) and minorities for policy help.

They haven't asked lesbians for sure.

[–]censorshipment 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

Most lesbians there are TRA libfems or not into politics.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Or they asked "lesbians on /r/AL", you know the "male" ones. As almost all lesbians I know were banned for speaking anything about being lesbian or being attracted to women only. Almost all lesbian subs were banned, escept ones "free for all" or full porn subs, so yeah~

[–]censorshipment 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Is she dating and sleeping with transes? Or as always "terf in home, tra in public, coerce others, but be disgusted yourself"?

[–]censorshipment 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

Lol I'm not sure. As I always say, this transbian shit is a white thing. We black lesbians don't have to deal with it personally, unless you're into dating white women.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I guess depending on place it can make sense, as majority of AGP "transbians" on youtube and other places are middle aged middle class white privileged men, especially in UK or Canada. However, in USA most of AGP in sports are black or latino men. It looks like it affects everyone in middle class (as Trans Widows have a lot of black women there, who's husbands became AGP). I suppose it differs from state to state as well.

[–]akkordeonplayer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m not a man, but don’t worry, I don’t collapse when I’m “misgendered”! They weren’t recruiting on any subs I visited, and god knows they would have banned me anyway.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I do not disagree. Reddit is a site controlled by admins who horrible people, but you cannot deny that this site is huge. Our subreddit had ~20,000 subscribers around the time it was purged. Here, while we are incredibly active, we have only 1,731 subscribers as of the time of this post. And this sub is one of the most active subs on the site. We’re allowed to speak amongst each other, but we’ve effectively been cutoff from the general public. A lot of the people on Reddit who were active on banned subreddits have no interest on coming on Saidit and continuing on what they’ve left off. Subsaidits like s/rightwinglgbt and s/cringeanarchy are there but nobody’s posting on them, but when they were allowed on Reddit those subs were huge.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

My main issue with this, is that new people or people from other countries first are coming to most famous or big sites - like reddit or twitter, they come on reddit, seeing on main page that everyone is saying that lesbians are loving dicks, and goes away thinking it is like that - because no one is opposing that idea. Previously GC posts were getting on first page, and now with GC banned - not anymore, so people coming, seeing that no one is opposing TRA, and thinking it is fine, as seems like everyone is accepting it, so if someone is against - they are just "small minority", otherwise why they are not opposing them on big sites?

Same with youth, they are coming and seeing only one opinion and they are just growing up, so they are thinking it is correct opinion and getting indoctrinated. Like that lesbian who was trying to force herself to date transwoman, and was crying that she can't get aroused in bed with that transwoman and so their sex is very onesided, and she was afraid that she is inherently transphobic and was trying to "fix" herself, all her friends were woke and all internet around was woke. And how many more lesbian women and gay men like this are there? How many told they are bigoten and must "unlearn" homosexuality, how many of them are told they are trans in reality? When only one side is present - it is propaganda, when it is used on youth - it is indoctrination. That's why all authoritharian regimes are always starting from schools and kids, every single time.

[–]akkordeonplayer 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's the whole point, to indoctrinate people, and to get to children in particular. Notice all the flagrant grooming subs that are moderated by t r a n s people who have well known connections to violent pedophiles. They literally GIVE information to minors on how to obtain estrogen, they post cartoons that push gender-extremism propaganda, they offer to "foster" children with gender "dysphoria". It's sinister.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, even Teen Vogue is going full on this plus "Anal sex" and "BDSM and rape porn is good to watch" - aimed on 11-15 years old girls.

Almost all authoritarian regimes are always starting with kids and schools.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is disgusting. Of course authoritarians target children. Which is why people who try to indoctrinate children should be imprisoned.

[–]hetisachoice 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They're RINOs if they allow the T in.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That’s right. Give me s/rightwinglgb and bring a thousand subscribers and I’ll be happy.

[–]reluctant_commenter 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I like to save links from subreddits in my notes and emails, and I was looking back through my notes the other day and found a few links from over a year ago about r/LGBDropTheT (including one about AGP)! I had totally forgotten about looking at the sub then, but apparently I had stumbled on it out of curiosity and was already starting to read a little bit about AGP and the like. While I never contributed before it was banned, I think if it wasn't for your guys' presence on reddit, I would've likely ended up going farther down the transing path than I did. Now that this sub is not on reddit, I worry for LGB kids and young adults who are fed an echo chamber's worth of information suggesting to them that they are trans.

As much as I miss Reddit, you’re not allowed to be a homosexual on there or speak your mind anymore. Why did it come to this? It’s dangerous how much censorship is being placed upon Reddit, thoughts and ideas are becoming dangerous.

I know. It's shocking. Social media has become one of the new most popular forms of conversion therapy. We've got to document all this stuff, and be prepared to share it with people we know. I think it's only a matter of time before the truth about transgender ideology makes it to mainstream news on the regular-- likely after the worst of the pandemic is over.

[–]ThiccDropkickGay 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It particularly bothers me because of how bipartisan the sub was. Now of course it gets painted as an anti-gay Christian alt-right sub on Reddit because nobody can easily look it up and see that they’re lying.

It wasn’t even a transphobic sub. Yes there were some arguably transphobic people there but nowhere near as bad as the places that condone and encourage beating people half to death for misgendering but naturally Reddit turns a blind eye to that

[–]mvmlego 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Given that, despite Saidit being much more right-leaning that Reddit, s/LGBDropTheT is still very moderate, that should be pretty convincing evidence to anyone who was unsure about r/LGBDropTheT's character that it was was no alt-right or hate sub.

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, without a doubt. Ultimately, finding this community on Reddit was what expanded my horizons on more modern LGB problems and confirmed all my observed "oddities" in the wider LGBTQ+ "community". The overall lack of growth in this sub is disheartening, but I suppose that is just how it goes. Swallowing the pill of:

"the TQ+ are 100% for acceptance and pushing to help people better understand their identities"

is a much easier one than:

"the TQ+ are posing a threat to children's health and are becoming dangerously authoritarian and militant with their ideology"

It fundamentally goes against what people have been led to believe about the LGBTQ+ and what they stand for.

[–]mvmlego 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think the reason that Reddit in particular became a cesspool of echo chambers and hateful hiveminds has a lot to do with 1) the moderating system, and 2) the karma system. Unlike (for example) Twitter, users can't publicly interact with people on Reddit unless you're part of the same communities.

Consequently if a user want to express disagreement with someone, then their comment must pass through whatever small group of people runs the community (i.e. the mods), leading to echo chambers imposed from the top. Furthermore, the karma system--or more specifically, the fact that users can downvote posts and cause the person who's been downvoted to lose a stockpiled resource--disincentivizes posting in cases where users expect they'll be in the minority. This leads to echo chambers imposed from the bottom. Either of those factors would be significant on their own, but the two put together absolutely crush dissent on every major topic.

This "hegemony from the top, hegemony from the bottom" dual problem also occurs on the scale of the website as a whole. As RedEyedWarrior mentions, the people running these companies have California values, which have become decreasingly liberal (in the classic sense) and more hardcore left over the last decade in particular. When their users, who are skewed disproportionately to the left because of the two factors mentioned in the last paragraph, make complaints about there being too many hateful alt-right users (while defining both "hateful" and "alt-right" extremely broadly), the executives of these companies are all to happy to oblige their demands.

[–]censorshipment 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (9 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/gyyqem/open_letter_to_steve_huffman_and_the_board_of/

It was the open letter that a long list of left-wing subreddit moderators signed. But I think a lot of you would support AHS' mission to get FDS (FemaleDatingStrategy) banned for homophobia.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/l4k3wd/rfds_gay_men_are_not_allies_they_dont_need_you/

I was banned from GenderCritical in 2019 for saying I don't give a fuck about gay men (nor bi men nor black men) as a (black) lesbian... I only care about women, black women in particular. I'm sure many of you would consider me a homophobic misandrist. Lol

[–]Smolders1Cock is god's greatest gift.[S] 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No, regardless of what their intent is, I don’t wanna support some janny task force’s mission to brigade subreddits, no matter what they’re doing it for. They literally set up VPN’s and make new accounts and then proceed to post child pornography to subreddits they don’t like.

[–]censorshipment 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

You know about that but many people don't. There are lots of straight women (libfems), women of color (libfems) and LGB folks helping AHS report subs. I've been talking about this for 7 months. The AskWomen and AskWomenOver30 sub mods, for example, are AHS allies of mostly "cis" women (libfems). I spent most of my time in "cis" women-centric subs and saw the hate for "terfs"/"transphobes". Seems to me that most TRAs are "cis" women. Ridiculous.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, a lot are actual women and I would be interested in a psychoanalysis of wtf is going on. I'm reminded of that story on Graham Linehan's site about all of those pregnant women in an online pregnancy support group rushing to coddle a trans-identifying male who was openly fetishizing pregnancy and supported his delusional fake pregnancy.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

That's interesting considering that GenderCritical & related subs have banned me for simply being a male, banned women for supporting males in even the tiniest ways (as long as they're not "Homosexual Transsexuals" of course - gay creepy fetishists get a pass for some reason) and have been open about their blatant sexism, ableism, and general nastiness.

I'm also surprised FDS didn't go down with GC when it was banned because the two are very much alike.

[–]censorshipment 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

GC allowed males to participate which pissed off some female members who didn't want males there. The mods would tell women not to tell men they were not allowed since the GC mods never made that a rule. Men were welcomed as long as they followed the GC rules.

GC mods and FDS mods didn't even get along... iirc, one infamous FDS mod was banned from GC. GC members would often complain about the FDS term "pickme/pickmeisha" being used in the GC sub. FDS allows members to talk shit about ("low value") women whereas GC did not. Also, most FDS members are very gender conforming... they love femininity, fashion, etc. GC was not like that until the libfems and FDSers took over.

[–]Franklintheturtle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

did GC really allow males to participate? I thought that was why GCGuys was created

[–]censorshipment 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

They sure did and would even warn women for "attacking" men commenting on GC posts. 2019 into 2020 was so odd. IIRC, there was even a mod post about being civil towards men. Mods also said men didn't have to indicate that they were men with flairs.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The issue was that they never stated subs were "female only" and banned males anyway for simply posting a comment or two. Like itsafetish. They banned me for being male even though I was there for months, and being male was never in their rules. I believe they ACTUALLY banned me because I poked holes in their retarded "GAMP" theory, and said that it's pretty disrespectful to refer to androgynous people as GAMPs because not all of us are surgically induced fetishists. So I think they made up a fake "no guys allowed this is a women's sub!!" ban reason just so they could ban me for wrongthink, tbh.

I also disagree with that last part. I checked out FDS and a lot of them seemed to have every radfem ideas on gender - ie, any femininity bad, hygiene/shaving bad and oppressive, etcetc.

[–]akkordeonplayer 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

FDS had coverage in WSJ not long ago. I think one of their mods has connections to someone who writes for WSJ. If they were banned, it would definitely have a write up in at least that newspaper.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I miss us on reddit too. The 21 k that disappeared, there seemed to be alot more discussion (comments) there. And people could more easily find us there.

[–]QueenBread 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Honestly, I don't. What's the difference between here and Reddit? I mean, apart from the fact I'd have been banned 10000 times over already if this were Reddit? This website here is the only social media where I can actually speak my mind.

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I agree with you this place is amazing but here we are preaching to the choir as they say. We need those crazy assholes and the lurkers that is how I ended up here.

I lurked on reddit until I came across too many crazy assholes and kept getting banned. Currently waiting out my 7 day suspension over there. I never had suspension in my life now I enjoy making the TRAs work.

I came across one "lady" the other day on facebook and of course they were a sex worker arguing about being too fucking special to do an honest days' work. Sure enough it is a dude trying to save money for his surgery lmao. Makes 7000 a month with "sex work" and thinks teachers should have only fans to get rulers and glue. Fuck that guy!

[–]QueenBread 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Makes 7000 a month with "sex work"

I've got some doubts on that..... If you could get this rich by prostituting yourself, so many more people would actually do it.

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That was the most insulting part. He thought all women could and should do it. It isn't enough to contribute with a regular job, you have to whore yourself out too!

Teachers showing tits for colored pencils, welcome to America!

I don't want to meet the men who pay for those services, they must be very desperate or very in the closet since this lady seems to still have her, em lady schlong. Do kids still call it that?

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What's the difference between here and Reddit?

This website here is the only social media where I can actually speak my mind.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, I was only there for less than a month before it was banned, but I am still bitter about that. And the same no-life TRAs who got it done are still lurking it around here, I'm sure of it. Just waiting to dox anyone who slips up.

I still occasionally go on some Reddit subs, because some of them are small niche places which haven't been claimed or are considered unimportant by the Trans mafia, and so still have pretty neutral content and normal users. Yes, I miss when the whole site was like that.

AHS and cancelling ilk like that can suck a Corncob attachment. They are representative of everything that's wrong with Reddit now and Aaron Swartz is spinning at Mach speed in his grave.

I have no idea of how they fund the site, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are beholden to vested interest. but I increasingly look to crowdfunded sites due to their more decentralized survival strategy. It's not perfect, but it's a start. Financial deplatforming is always a risk, though. Cancel culture does not care for courts and legal processes. They will brute force you anyway they can to get what they want. It was really the worse thing to happen to the internet.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

can suck a Corncob attachment.

M E T A

[–]akkordeonplayer 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I keep thinking there is much more to this Reddit bullshit than people are recognizing. I was reading a thread on Ru qq us from a techy engineer type who is speculating that Reddit has some capabilities that are beyond what is typical for a social media platform in terms of weeding individuals out for "wrong think". He said he tried to circumvent a ban (he was banned for something really benign) and he couldn't figure out how Reddit kept identifying him and prevented him from making a new account. I am really terrified that somehow the Reddit pogroms are going to mimic what our US government is planning to do to us online to some extent-- as if they're going to blanket ban anyone who falls outside the extreme Woke spectrum... and that any one of us who questions gender extremism will be deemed "Neo-nazi d o m e s t I c t e r r o r is t s" and either be persecuted, prosecuted, permanently banned, or just have all of our platforms cancelled/destroyed. I'm worried someone high up in Reddit now has massive political power-- as obviously TECH helped many people win this past election, and Reddit itself flagrantly pushed certain parties/politicians over others. Tech and their misogynistic woke bros have bought our government (no, I'm not a right winger).

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Right wingers are right when they say a lot of liberals are not so liberals, and they're mostly nazis.