What's with celebrities 'coming out' and not clarifying what they're coming out as?

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[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 45 insightful - 1 fun45 insightful - 0 fun46 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

This is consistent with my workplace eliminating identification as lesbian, bisexual, or gay. Now we get to identify as "a member of the LGBTQ+ community" or "not a member of the LGBTQ+ community." But of course there is a place to identify as "non-binary" specifically and another place to identify as "transgender" or "cisgender." They totally eliminated "sex" too. It's now "gender," "gender identity," and "LGBTQ+ status."

This helps the LARPers, trenders, and grifters and hurts actual lesbian, bisexual, and gay people.

[–]supersmokio6420 22 insightful - 3 fun22 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Doesn't anyone else at your work find that strange? I would have thought not having specific options for LGB but having them for TQ+ would have at least got some heads scratching.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 27 insightful - 3 fun27 insightful - 2 fun28 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

I noticed the change this past week when it was announced that the self-disclosure forms were changed in line with Joe Biden's executive order. I believe that's when LGB were removed as individual categories, but would have to ask others to confirm what the form looked like when they filled it out. When I last touched the form lesbian, bisexual, and gay were mentioned specifically.

I asked a lesbian friend and she said yes, she found this very strange and did not support it, and was not part of any conversation about it before the change was made.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 18 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

At this point I would just disregard their form and click 'other' - pretend to be that gender identity that identifies with not being labelled with a gender identity. Or just make up your own! You're valid.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Yes, I'm selecting "prefer not to disclose" under "gender identity" at the very least. When I'm up to it, I will ask why "sex" was removed as a category if the whole idea is that "sex and gender are different." The other thing that's weird with saying "LGBTQ+ status" is are they really asking intersex people to disclose their medical conditions for Christ's sake? What are they saying falls under that label "LGBTQ+" and what doesn't? Their definition of "transgender" is "your gender identity is different from your gender assigned at birth." So they seem to imply that gender = sex but then when you go to gender, the choices are male, female, and non-binary, so WTF. Obviously non-binary is not a sex and no one was "assigned" that at birth.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 13 insightful - 12 fun13 insightful - 11 fun14 insightful - 12 fun -  (0 children)

I have haemorrhoids. I'm normalising making our medical records public so as to be inclusive to intersex people.