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[–]8bitgay 48 insightful - 14 fun48 insightful - 13 fun49 insightful - 14 fun -  (4 children)

They're """""feminists""""" that, for their very weird, antisocial, bigoted and nonscientific beliefs, treat trans women as "not real women" and try to erase them from womanhood.

I always find it so funny that they say others can't gatekeep who is woman, who is lesbian, etc... But they love gatekeeping that "TERFs" aren't real feminists. If they identify as feminists then they are feminists, isn't this their own rule?

[–]panderichthys 36 insightful - 6 fun36 insightful - 5 fun37 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

They're literally describing themselves with that first part. Zero self-awareness.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 30 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 2 fun31 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

That's some projection there. They been trying to erase women by trying to normalize the prefix 'cis'. I don't use that term at all unless I'm quoting someone else. I will not negotiate with transists by using their neo-vocabulary.

scientific

I keep hearing this from TRAs. What science? I asked one on YT to go on and elaborate what they meant by "the science which fully explains why trans people exist" and they never got back to me. Figures.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Or usually they give a lazy response like:

The science is out there if you just bother to look for it.

This may well be true, but the best writing in articles or books or whatever gives some sources they're referring to and allows the reader to make up their own mind. It's also just good practice. Saying 'it's there if you just look for it' is completely meaningless, because with one click on 'all' on Saiddit I can find any number of articles explaining, in the greatest of detail, why any and all Covid vaccines actually contain microchips that allow Bill Gates to track you, or that the riot at the capital was an inside job perpetrated by a perfidious cabal of devil-worshipping paedophile Zionists. Anything is out there if you 'look for it' - you're gonna have to be more specific, dear.

Or

It's not my job to educate you.

While I can sometimes sympathise with this statement, it usually sounds better (which is a strong word, let's be honest) when it comes from people who haven't chosen to make something the axis of their identity and then refuses to answer questions on it. If my colleague, Fatima, is frequently pestered with questions about Islam, I can understand if she gets a little impatient and tells people to back off. If Fatima went around audibly pointing at people and calling their behaviour haram and started acting a bit like the Saudi Morality Police, her refusal to answer (what I assume are) good-faith questions about why she believes what she believes or behaves the way she does would be grating at best. If you don't want people to ask, stop making yourself the centre of attention.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Or usually they give a lazy response like:

The science is out there if you just bother to look for it.

The Truth Is Out there!

Since I think I know enough science to have a general idea on how much evidence they need and have to back their claims, I'll have to regard their truth like a theory of a government conspiracy to cover-up extraterrestrials.

If my colleague, Fatima, is frequently pestered with questions about Islam, I can understand if she gets a little impatient and tells people to back off. If Fatima went around audibly pointing at people and calling their behaviour haram and started acting a bit like the Saudi Morality Police, her refusal to answer (what I assume are) good-faith questions about why she believes what she believes or behaves the way she does would be grating at best.

Ah, but you see- the questions themselves are haram...

If you don't want people to ask, stop making yourself the centre of attention.

Agreed. "Educate yourself" is something hear a lot of from genderists. When they fall back on that it usually means they don't themselves even have the knowledge they are expecting me to seek and are attempting to cop out.