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[–]julesburm1891 44 insightful - 3 fun44 insightful - 2 fun45 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

But how many OBGYN’s can absolutely tell the difference between a vagina and a surgically altered penis and are afraid to say anything because of getting fired for “discrimination” or canceled in their field for “transphobia?”

[–][deleted] 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Exactly. It's like the concept that people lie all the time never occurs to them. 'My aunt is an OB and she says ballginas look super real'. Right. As if her job wouldn't be in jeopardy if she said otherwise. She's likely seen people around her get doxxed and fired for admitting their true feelings, and doesn't know who around her is just waiting for her to slip up and use that as an excuse to ruin her livelihood.

[–]julesburm1891 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Full disclosure. I’m not a gynecologist.

There are subs on Reddit for trans people to show off their surgical results. (I think the one I spent the most time perusing was TransSurgeries.) These are where they go to post the results of which they’re proud. I spent a couple of hours going through these one day so I probably saw a few hundred bottom surgeries. All but two of the neovaginas were very obviously not vaginas. (They would be very obviously not vaginas if you encountered them irl because, even if they can pass in one photo, they literally don’t have the parts to smell, feel, or taste like a vagina.) All of the neopenises were clearly not dicks.

If I, a regular person who just so happens to have actually seen genitals, can tell that things aren’t real from a photo, I am confident medical professionals are capable of it.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 8 insightful - 17 fun8 insightful - 16 fun9 insightful - 17 fun -  (1 child)

taste

What kind of gynecologist have you been seeing?

[–]julesburm1891 14 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

You got me. I was thinking more of what encountering a vagina is in my life, but that definitely does sound weird.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 25 insightful - 26 fun25 insightful - 25 fun26 insightful - 26 fun -  (3 children)

My friend, a cardiologist, told me he can't tell the difference between a human heart and one that I stuck together with liver and beef offal that I fished out of the bin.

[–]deftoneslettucetomcat 32 insightful - 5 fun32 insightful - 4 fun33 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

One of the basic things a gyno does is a pap smear, right? That involves the cervix, which transsexual males do not have. Men should not be wasting gyneocologists' time.

[–]lavender_menace 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Apparently they can get cancers in that part of their body. And because of estrogen the risk for cancer in mtf is higher. Which means they definitely should get regular check-ups. I’m just not sure gynos are the right address.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And even if they go to the gyno, what can they possibly say?

"Si- Ma'am, your weeping haphazardly sewn flesh wound is refusing to heal nicely, which is what you want, isn't that right...no, that bloody pus isn't considered a period, but you do you, I guess."

[–][deleted] 26 insightful - 8 fun26 insightful - 7 fun27 insightful - 8 fun -  (9 children)

I was sympathetic to OP's situation (getting deceived by a transman) until he said that. Jesus, the misogyny. 'Oh a surgeon can totes make a fake vagina that's 100% passable, but not the precious penis. Science could never.' Both surgeries look like shit but OP is insisting that phallo is the only clockable one.

[–]SapphicFox 18 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

This is honestly an issue with some men whether gay or straight, they seem to have a very 'Bro's before hoe's' mentality they defend their fellow male doing something towards females that they would hate having done to themselves.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

Agreed. The irony is apparently the transman he was seeing fooled him well enough entertain a relationship for 2 months. How does he know the ftm's phallo isn't 'indistinguishable' as he put it, since the rest of her passes so well? He's such an expert on dicks but apparently can't tell a real man from a fake one. Wonder why he's singing the praises of SRS for transwomen saying it 'does wonders' for them, yet is dubious of SRS for transmen? We all know why 🙄.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

Because he's a troll?

[–]malloww 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Tbh I think you're right. In one comment he knows a weirdly high amount about phalloplasty (to me, at least, but I'm not a gay guy, so if any guys want to correct me please do) including a bunch of terminology trans people use, and yet he dated a transman for two months without cluing in at all? And he just happens to have an obgyn aunt who he was discussing vaginoplasty with? Which like... He's 19 and gay, even if his aunt is an obgyn I have a hard time imagining that a gay male teenager wants to discuss vaginas of any kind with his freaking aunt. And it's subtle but he's ultimately pushing TRA talking points, even if he's acting like he's a dreaded "transphobe".

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My theory is that they're trying to get agb banned by baiting it.

[–]8bitgay 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There was a similar post on AGB some days ago about another guy being deceived into a relationship with a transman for months.

If it was just the regular "is it transphobic to not date this guy?", then sure, I bet many guys have the same doubt nowadays (unfortunately). But this situation is too specific. Either it's the same guy, or it's a copycat, or it's different trolls making combined efforts.

[–]pacmanla 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Honestly, I've seen this more on the female side. Not trying to start "gender warring", but I've seen more women in the name of "sisterhood" defend other females doing things as you described the males doing. I've seen transmen (females) get a pass for things that transwomen (males) wouldn't.

I believe there are men & women who do engage in giving other men & women "passes", because they're part of that group. Whether it's the "bros before hoes" or the "sisterhood".

[–]SapphicFox 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

True, both sides definitely have their issues with 'gender blindness'.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

...Sisterhood of the Travelling Asshats?

[–]LenaScrpn1111 17 insightful - 7 fun17 insightful - 6 fun18 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

My goodness, why do they believe an inverted penis form actual vagina tissue.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

SRS really works wonders for trans women. Some gynecologists say they can’t distinguish a real vagina from a trans one. Not so much for trans men, lol.

This person is a TRA troll, probably a transwoman, seeing how they make the above comment and subtly put down transmen. Possibly one of those same pedophile motherfuckers from "AgainstHateSubreddits". They are goading the guys into saying something "transphobic" so they can report and ban the group.

I am sure of this, b/c phalloplasty is extremely rare, and often results in complications. The chances of a "trans stealth man" (also vanishingly rare) and phalloplasty (that worked), and the barrage of TRA posts, + this idiot who just happens to have a gynecologist aunt who saw a neovag (also rare) that apparently went well (LOL) is too much. Broke my bullshit meter.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

You win the Internet today with this post title. Thank you.

[–]hetisachoice 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Butter is just trans-milk.