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[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 59 insightful - 15 fun59 insightful - 14 fun60 insightful - 15 fun -  (1 child)

“But let’s not forget.” How can we? They never shut up about all of the so gay very queer penis-in-vagina sex they’re having. Because they’re totally not virgins, you guys.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian[S] 33 insightful - 7 fun33 insightful - 6 fun34 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

And they always use stuff like 'let's not forget' or 'we can't ignore', as if they're actually a part of LGB.

[–]ks00 55 insightful - 11 fun55 insightful - 10 fun56 insightful - 11 fun -  (1 child)

They are so awkward, lol. Always butting into the conversation because they lack the awareness that no one else gives a shit.

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 33 insightful - 5 fun33 insightful - 4 fun34 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly. Like. No. One. Cares.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 41 insightful - 13 fun41 insightful - 12 fun42 insightful - 13 fun -  (0 children)

Gay rights supporter: same sex couples are just as capable of raising children as opposite sex couples.

Trans rights activist: HEY! Focus on MEEEEEEEEEE!

[–]Femaleisnthateful 40 insightful - 9 fun40 insightful - 8 fun41 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

Oh noes, the counter-commenter acknowledged the existence of biological sex! It's a slippery slope to affirming the existence of same-sex attraction....

[–]homosomes 37 insightful - 7 fun37 insightful - 6 fun38 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

Yes. We know how heterosexual sex works. Everyone knows how heterosexual sex can result in a pregnancy.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian[S] 20 insightful - 15 fun20 insightful - 14 fun21 insightful - 15 fun -  (0 children)

But what about queer sex? It's clearly different because it's not straight. Maybe the baby comes out genderless?

[–]cherryfemme 39 insightful - 1 fun39 insightful - 0 fun40 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They seriously can’t handle it when something isn’t about them. Even going by trans ideology and if they believe biological sex is real the post was about same sex couples.

[–]8bitgay 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This topic was probably what peaked me.

A homosexual couple can't make a child on its own. Yeah, you can have a child with another person, you can adopt, but you can't have a child simply by having sex with your same-sex partner. This can be a good or a bad thing depending on whether you want a child.

But nevertheless, it's a big point about homosexuality and the prejudice we face. Homophobes often target us by saying we can't have children. They often accuse us of not fulfilling our "biological mission". Many religions say that having children is an important, even essential part of life. Families often pressure gay/lesbian people into having kids. Even our existence is questioned, because for a lot of people we only exist to have kids.

So to say we might someday just have kids with a trans partner... It's not only failing to realize we want same sex partners, it completely ignores all the homophobia we've went through precisely because we can't have kids with our partners. They manage to be offensive two ways at once.

And they aren't fine with just saying "I'm gay but someday I might have a kid with a trans partner". They have to say "you're gay so someday you might have a kid with a trans partner".

[–]GreykittymommaMagical lady 💜 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for this comment. I feel badly for my gay friends that having kids can be difficult. As a bi woman I have no problem having kids. You need both sexes to have a baby. Fight me.

A transwoman with a functional penis is male and if she dates a gay man they aren't popping out any babies soon. Even if she inverts her penis she can't get pregnant and carry a child.

This isn't a movie. You can't have my uterus.

Transmen and women have a better chance, they just have to find a turkey baster.

[–]reluctant_commenter 30 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 2 fun31 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Love the original post. I never thought about it that way.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian[S] 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Me too. It doesn't mean that same sex couples won't abuse their children, but it's less likely since the children are genuinely wanted by the parents.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 23 insightful - 7 fun23 insightful - 6 fun24 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

That transbian said "biological sex", but I thought "biological sex" was terf rhetoric and also murdered trans people who read the phrase, and also didn't exist? Where is the mob to burn the witch? XD

On another note, whatever happened to the TRA trope that they never want to "use their girldique"? LOL they are so inconsistent.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian[S] 17 insightful - 14 fun17 insightful - 13 fun18 insightful - 14 fun -  (1 child)

They've got Schrodinger's penis. It is simultaneously not used in sex but also used in sex.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

LOL also Schrodinger's dysphoria. They are so super duper dysphoric that they avoid looking/thinking about their penis, but simultaneously can't stop talking about it, and bring it up at every opportunity.

[–]blackrainbow 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

" This is a classic example of cisnormativity within our own community, and I wanted to draw people's attention to it to encourage them to be more conscious of this sort of thing in the future."

So we are not able to discuss same-sex attraction anymore

[–]blackrainbow 14 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

"I know this hasn't any malicious intent but there's a lot of internalized transphobia on this meme. Not every gay/lesbian couple is by two cis persons. This meme completely forgot about our existence, and while a meme won't really affect my life, it feels bad to be forgotten within our own community."

[–][deleted] 19 insightful - 4 fun19 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Forgotten? That is laughable. They seem perfectly fine talking about specifically TQ+ stuff like gender identity and validation (which 90% of LGB people won't relate to or understand). Because it is fine! They can have their own spaces to talk about their own shit that we can't relate to, just let us have ours! The idea of a unified LGBTQ+ community is becoming increasingly more redundant as time goes on.

[–]blackrainbow 10 insightful - 9 fun10 insightful - 8 fun11 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They can have their own spaces to talk about their own shit that we can't relate to, just let us have ours!

Here's the problem, though: we just wanna be ourselves, while they just wanna be... US.

LGB identity isn't based on others' perception of us. It's based on sexual orientation. Which is a matter of two things: biological sex (one's own + that of those to whom one is attracted), and sexual attraction. The first has nothing to do with "feelings" (any more than your blood type or species does); the second is "feelings", by definition. So our feelings and our sex are on the same page: there's no contradiction. Which means that they don't require "validation" from other people. Because they get THAT from just plain reality. As does (therefore) our identity as LGB.

TQ+ identity is based on the contention that their feelings NULLIFY their sex: replace it, blot it out, switch it to its opposite. But feelings (including "gender identity") are, as noted above, irrelevant to your sex. So this is by definition impossible. Indeed-- given how obvious their sex remains-- BLATANTLY so. Therefore, since they can't change reality, they instead try to leapfrog over it by getting everyone to ACT as though they have. Oh, we TOTES can't tell! Never woulda guessed IN A MILLION YEARS! Your precious ladyfeelz/dudefeelz/whatever-the-fuck-feelz are ALL THAT WE CAN SEE. Etc. TQ+ identity essentially demands that we all be their co-conspirators... or at least pretend that we are.

So they can't leave other people alone. And us in particular. Why? Well, like most people, the TQ+ are usually straight. But since their all-important "gender identity" is as the opposite sex, this makes them... "gay". Or so they are absolutely HELLBENT on believing; if orientation is determined by sex, after all, then the whole genderist argument falls apart. Which means that we must believe it, too. Hence the incessant demands, the whining, the threats, the attacks. That is... the NOT LETTING US HAVE OUR OWN SPACES. Cuz this would be admitting that "they" aren't actually the same as "us". And they INSIST on being us. They are fixated on it; obsessed with it. That they're gay. Completely and utterly, beyond any shadow of a doubt. For which our wholehearted acceptance is required.

Basically, it comes down to this: they desperately need us... but we don't need them. At all.

[–][deleted] 24 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's funny how this transbian thinks he could get anyone pregnant with his 'soft uwu feminine mouthfeel girldick'.

Most trans people are infertile after medical transition anyway. A transman on testosterone long enough will need to have a total hysterectomy because her reproductive organs start to atrophy and die, like what happened to Buck Angel. Blaire White no longer produces viable sperm because he's been on estrogen for so long. The pregnant transmen often have a lot of complications and need to go off testosterone in order to sustain a pregnancy.

[–]blackrainbow 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A lot of "transbians" are just plain straight men

[–][deleted] 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Why is it always the T? Always T is the ONLY important part. Just drop the LGB, T.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian[S] 16 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

They can't. Who will they use as human shields otherwise?

[–]oyasuminasai50 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So what do we now call a relationship where both people have a dick or both people have a vagina? We can't say gay anymore because that's transphobic? They're really trying to take away the language we have to talk about our same-sex attraction. And if gender is a social construct why is that the only thing they care about? Why is sex secondary to gender for them?

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 18 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The ability for two people to get pregnant is a function of biological sex (and other factors of course)

WHAT "other factors"? It's ENTIRELY a function of biological sex; that's what biological sex IS! Reproductive categories! Sure, both parties must be fertile, and his sperm needs to meet her egg somehow, but the whole one-person-of-each-bio-sex thing is THE prerequisite! Without THAT, no other "factors" mean shit!

but it's independent of gender.

Well, sure, in the sense that it's "independent" of Parcheesi, or believing that you're a vampire. Which is to say... irrelevant. Thus making "gender" a complete non sequitur here. So... why are you even talking about it?

So a gay or lesbian couple with one trans person and one cis person, for example, could get pregnant by accident.

But the only thing that MAKES these couples "gay" or "lesbian" is "gender", and we already noted that "gender" is irrelevant to getting pregnant, remember? Their bio-sex is male and female. LIKE EVERY OTHER PAIR OF HUMANS TO MAKE A BABY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME.

NEXT you'll tell me that two HUMANS aren't even required cuz a "cis" man or "transwoman" can totally get an "otherkin" pregnant!

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Did they just say biological sex is a real thing(with real implications) separate from gender?

Now I know why they dislike the term homosexual.

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

"Never once has a SAME SEX!!!!!! couple conceived a child by accident"

This sentiment is still true even with the existence of trans people ffs. They can't get their logic straight.

[–]NiceDickBro 10 insightful - 9 fun10 insightful - 8 fun11 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

HEY GUYS JUST SO YOU KNOW I'M HERE AND NEED TO ADD MY OPINION!

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Yes we know that straight sex can lead to babies this is news to no one

[–]blackrainbow 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Ahahahahahah I wanted to post that!

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I saw only the first part and i was like, “but he/she has a good point.” Then i scrolled down...