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[–]julesburm1891 33 insightful - 11 fun33 insightful - 10 fun34 insightful - 11 fun -  (2 children)

First off, spelling it “ackward” really just makes me imagine an angry seagull in hipster attire screeching. This should probably be the transbian mascot.

As someone who was a nerdy and socially awkward teenage lesbian, I can confirm it wasn’t fun. There was a lot of bullying, constant self-loathing, and copious amounts of general sadness.

OP’s entire post is indicative of someone who childishly believes the grass is greener on the other side. It’s not. Adolescence isn’t fun and full of confidence for anyone. It’s a whole lot of worrying and doubt with a veneer of carefree fun pasted over it.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 10 insightful - 14 fun10 insightful - 13 fun11 insightful - 14 fun -  (0 children)

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

What? Are you sure your teenagehood wasn't filled with copious amounts of totally gay lesbian sleepovers and pillow fights? Weren't you making out with your best friends constantly? Weren't all the girls falling for you?

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 26 insightful - 5 fun26 insightful - 4 fun27 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

I was an awkward gay boy It's really not as fun as this guy thinks. It sucks. Unless he's got a kink for like, bullying or feeling like everyone hates him, I guess

[–]reluctant_commenter 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Unless he's got a kink for like, bullying or feeling like everyone hates him

Unfortunately closer to the truth than one might otherwise guess, if he has a sissification fetish, which many male-to-female trans have.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 21 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It's because he's consumed the outline of lesbian teenagers' growing up/coming of age stories from movies, and thinks he wants it. If he knew anything about the reality of it, he wouldn't want it. It's disgusting that my past feels like a product for some sick dude's consumption. Fuck him.

[–]Beryl 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Unless he's got a kink for like, bullying or feeling like everyone hates him, I guess

You might be more right than you think you are. A lot of these people have some sort of degradation/public humiliation fetish, just look at /r/FtMspunished (Actually, don't, but you know what I mean)

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think I'll talk to my gender therapist about all of this.

You don't need a "gender therapist" dude, you need an actual fucking therapist.

Also... please comfort me & give me a hug. I'm feeling very weird rn, spaced out.. I wouldn't mind being adopted by some older sapphics. I don't really have any older queer people in my life.

Gross af. It's not the job of older lesbians to coddle you or "adopt" you.

[–]MilkTea 20 insightful - 5 fun20 insightful - 4 fun21 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Sounds like fetishisation to me. Wouldn't be surprised if he thinks girls' sleepovers to be something like straight outta porn. But looking at his profile, he probably fantasizes about it with anime girls instead.

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 16 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 6 fun -  (7 children)

I got some random "boy's" growing up.

No wai me 2

I'm not exclusively looking for input from fellow trans people, but also experiences of cis wlw. It would be interesting to compare similarities.

Agreed; That'd be interesting..

sapphics

There it is again. Do any actual Sapphics use this term anymore? Or is it just another synonym Trans employ now to hide their own sex?

Also... please comfort me & give me a hug. I'm feeling very weird rn, spaced out.. I wouldn't mind being adopted by some older sapphics. I don't really have any older queer people in my life.

Cringe

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Sapphic would be a useful word if it weren’t trans-jacked. I would like a nice word to refer to lesbians and bi women collectively. But yes these days it signals gender woo and anything other than actually being “Sapphic.”

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I would like a nice word to refer to lesbians and bi women collectively.

That makes two of us :) I'd also like one which refers to all same-sex-attracted people collectively, and is a proper WORD, not just an acronym. (Can anyone think of something that fits the bill? I've racked my brain, but to no avail-- each one I manage to come up with seems more cringe-tastic than the last.)

And speaking of nice words (in terms of cleverness; nothing nice about what it describes of course!): "trans-jacked"! Yep, that's pretty much their signature trait, isn't it? Not just with an innocent and potentially-helpful word like "sapphic", but with lesbian spaces, and LGB in general, and women's sports/organizations, and liberalism/the left, and... well, pretty much EVERYTHING :(

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'd also like one which refers to all same-sex-attracted people collectively, and is a proper WORD, not just an acronym. (Can anyone think of something that fits the bill? I've racked my brain, but to no avail-- each one I manage to come up with seems more cringe-tastic than the last.)

Unfortunately there is no such word and we will never get rid of “queer” unless we can come up with one that sticks. No one wants to say same-sex attracted when we’re not being technical and analytical. The only other “word” I know is “lesbigay.” Funny bc it looks like “let’s be gay.”

On a similar note, something similar is also responsible for the gay/bi conflation issues. Many of us take the position that gay means homosexual but we do often mean for people to read “bisexual” into many of the ways we use “gay.” So I’m less militant on that point. Like it irks me that there may be bi people who are like Kinsey 1s and have no interest in anything beyond a threesome calling themselves “gay” left and right. But for a bi person who is mostly same-sex attracted or at least gets into relationships with the same sex, and might even marry a member of the same sex like Rosie Spaughton or Allie Conway, I feel like I have more in common with them than I don’t and it does feel weird saying “you can’t have that” to them with the word “gay.”

And like what do you call a relationship or sex between a lesbian and a bi woman? My inclination is gay or lesbian because that’s how it will be viewed. Or again, wish that Sapphic word was still viable.

[–]votkriscan 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Interestingly, in some places, people don't always automatically assume that just because two women are in a relationship, that they are lesbians. There are slang terms where people refer to themselves by dating types. Like, for example, femme/butch women in a relationship have a slang for themselves, and femme/femme women have a different slang for theirs.

But in English, Sapphic or wlw would work better to describe relationships involving both a lesbian and a bi woman. However, at this point, everything will likely just be hijacked.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I need to update my foreign language fluency with respect to LGB things but yes wlw is as hijacked as sapphic and ironically includes non-binaries who supposedly don’t want to be women. I don’t get it, but I don’t think they do either.

[–]refusetoliein a time of universal deceit 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I cannot see "wlw" without hearing Dr. Zoidberg in my head. It seems like it's only pronounceable by a creature with tendrils over the mouth.

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I kind of like lesbigay lol

[–]ChunkeeguyTeam T*RF Fuck Yeah 14 insightful - 5 fun14 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Ah yes ackward, rhymes with backward like TQ+ ideology.

[–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Man, almost nobody gets to "be themselves" at that age... It's normal to go through a period of brooding about it but isolating your experiences from everyone else, focusing on divisions and shooting envying looks at illusions is not the way to heal.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As a late-bloomer lesbian no I don’t feel this way because I was an awkward lesbian back then just dealing with all of the bullshit that kept me shamed into the closet. And I still am in large part. Knowing what some of my friends went through too, as in spending more than half of their lives trying to convince their family members that they’re worthy of love and respect and having that affect all of their major life decision-making (and honestly this is me too), I would like to give this individual a big “fuck you.” We are still dealing with this now, you doofus.

Dude even admits he did all that stuff, just as a boy.

[–]DestructionI ❤️ adult human females 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Glanced at this guys post history. What do I find? "if I so deeply wish I was a lesbian, it probably means that I'm a lesbian"

Aaaaand please excuse me while I barf.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I knew a guy in college who spelled awkward exactly like that. He was also really weird and creepy (asked me to be friends with benefits after only knowing me for about an hour). Must be a common thing among sex obsessed men who can't spell the word 'awkward'.

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well the downvotes are giving me hope. Maybe after the relentless barrage of the past two days, any remaining women on that subreddit are getting a bit pissed off.

[–]powpowpowpow 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wish they would find something else to put so much energy in besides the gender mambo jambo...

[–]Ninaran 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How the hell is he "non-binary" (the most backward shit in the first place) and a girl and a lesbian at once? Are those just kids posting on that sub?

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, while it's absolutely true that he never was, nor will be, a "gay girl" of ANY kind, the good news is that he's now got more "ackward" goin' on than you can shake a stick at!