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[–]Eurowoman24 49 insightful - 14 fun49 insightful - 13 fun50 insightful - 14 fun -  (2 children)

interesting how no one is complaining that transwomen aren't featured on that porn sub, no one cares about being inclusive all of the sudden?

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 33 insightful - 6 fun33 insightful - 5 fun34 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

Right??? It's amazing to me. I don't understand how none of them care... or I wouldn't understand, if it weren't for the fact that so many are male autogynephiles who decided to become lesbian because of the r/lesbians sub.

[–]Eurowoman24 27 insightful - 4 fun27 insightful - 3 fun28 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

i guess? but when everyone's sexuality has to be inclusive (ref. transmen in gay magazine as sexiest man uk) why has none of the AGPs commented on the fact that clearly they aren't seen as porn worthy "lesbians"? I can't wrap my head around the cognitive dissonance.

[–]MilkTea 36 insightful - 10 fun36 insightful - 9 fun37 insightful - 10 fun -  (14 children)

Don’t forget dudes commenting like “I wish I was there too” like bro if we’re playing into the illusion that those are real lesbians they 100% don’t want you there

I used to think similarly to that. Turns out I’m trans!

Bro same! I was a borderline incel in middle school then I hit 9th grade, had a year long gender crisis and walked into school at the beginning of 10th grade a girl with actual respect for women

This is "I’m not like the other girls", but the r/AL incel version.

Edit:

transbian: This is why I stick to asmr and hentai. irl porn is just disgusting for me personally.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 41 insightful - 3 fun41 insightful - 2 fun42 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

Dude. That is LITERALLY the porn -> transgender pipeline. Wow.

I always thought lesbians just had a much cuter, gentler form of love, and regretted that I couldn't have that too. Turns out that's what we call in the industry a "sign"

I hate how sexist they are. "Women must always be gentle and cute!"

[–][deleted] 37 insightful - 8 fun37 insightful - 7 fun38 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

As a gay guy who wants "gentle and cute love" this makes me mad. Guess I'm not allowed that unless I "transition" and date other "chicks with dicks", right?

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 28 insightful - 3 fun28 insightful - 2 fun29 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, any of us who act differently than the sex roles prescribed by our sex must be trans 🙄 guess I'm secretly a man in my soul and in denial about it...

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡ 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly what I thought when I first saw that comment and exactly how you can spot a fethishist

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I always thought lesbians just had a much cuter, gentler form of love

This reminds me of how someone once said (wryly) that, in essence, most people conceptualize lesbian sex as... just braiding each other's hair. Cuz only dick counts as the Main Event, duh! Thus, lesbian relationships are... forever consigned to Just Friends status. Can't be anything more than sweet and innocent and terminally ADORBS. Like those sickening Precious Moments figurines. Precious Moments Lesbians! Aw, you think you're doing grown-up stuff! Isn't that just too CUTE!

Yeah... there's sure as shit nuthin' PASSIONATE or SEXUAL about the kind of stuff that's most likely to result in female orgasm, no sirree!

[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

One of my friends claims that two people of the same sex can't actually have sex, because there's no chance for procreation. He says, "Sure, I'll call it having sex, just to placate people, but I don't actually believe it." I bet a fair number of people hold this opinion. Totally floored me when he said it. Overall, I've found quite a diversity of opinion as to what "counts" as sex. It's wild. I'm still trying to come up with some sort of taxonomy that makes logical sense, but it really does seem to be a socially and culturally mediated concept... which may be why my friend is relying on procreation.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 14 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It is one of reasons why rape laws in many countries are often covering only PiV sex, and any other forced sex is not thought as a rape or serious crime by those laws.

[–]TransspeciesUnicornI sexually identify as a mythical sparkly equine 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So does he also think that it wouldn't be rape if another man fucked him against his will? And are "Gold Star" gay and lesbian porn stars virgins in his eyes?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I applied counterexamples like this, but he lost interest. His wife said that sex is anything that you can be prosecuted for--sexual assault--but that's of course a circular definition, because that's defined by society in the first place.

[–]blackrainbow 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're so sexist, why can't a man be gentle??

Also, in 2020 it's easier to switch teams that improve your conditions, I've seen it in many aspects.. .

[–]8bitgay 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Bro same! I was a borderline incel in middle school then I hit 9th grade, had a year long gender crisis and walked into school at the beginning of 10th grade a girl with actual respect for women

Ugh, this comment

I was talking about these issues with a friend and he was super dismissive of it all. Kinda wish I'd send this comment to him too but I'm giving up on talking about these things with him because he'll just dismiss everything.

It's sad because he's a gay guy who always finds a way to agree with TRA views but dismisses the issues lesbians and gays go through.

[–]blackrainbow 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

AGPs are incels, prove me wrong

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

with actual respect for women

Lol.

[–]fuckupaddamsBisexual Terve 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was a borderline incel in middle school then I hit 9th grade, had a year long gender crisis and walked into school at the beginning of 10th grade a girl with actual respect for women

Ah yes your typical female experience.

[–]FineIWillDoItMyself 34 insightful - 9 fun34 insightful - 8 fun35 insightful - 9 fun -  (2 children)

These mofos with their 0 self awareness

[–][deleted] 24 insightful - 3 fun24 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, everything you need to know is posted in the comments. It's amazing how we all see the same thing, but interpret it so very differently.

[–]8bitgay 16 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It's funny because there is a sub for these moments of almost self awareness (SelfAwarewolves)... But they're a TRA sub. For example

[–][deleted] 30 insightful - 6 fun30 insightful - 5 fun31 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I always thought lesbians just had a much cuter, gentler form of love

Translation: I think female sexuality (and femaleness in general) is all flowers and softness and uwus therefore I think lesbians are twice the flowers and softness and uwus.

Edit: This bullshit right here:

I'm not quite sure what all the shock is about. It's porn. It's a way for people to enjoy their fantasies. I don't see the big deal.

The big deal is that young/late bloomer lesbians who are googling for women like themselves will find r/lesbians and see their sexuality being used as jerk off material for straight men. There will be no discussion of how to navigate how hard it is to be a lesbian or how to meet other lesbians, only 'sauce?' or 'name?' because these dudes are typing one-handed and can only type one word at a time. They'll see nothing displaying actual, pleasurable sex between two women, only (mostly) straight women posing for the camera in ways that straight men like to see, fake moaning, and engaging in sex acts that will never get either of them off.

These lesbians will then find r/actuallesbians and be told they need to like dick if the man attached to it has long hair and is wearing makeup. That's the problem. Both of these 'lesbian' subs are a cesspit of fetishy dudes being open with their predatory obsession with lesbians.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 30 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 2 fun31 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Also shoutout to the "lesbians" who want to make women deepthroat their "girlcocks" https://www.reddit.com/r/actuallesbians/comments/km52y2/comment/ghdjxqc

archive link: https://archive.is/AsOH1

[–]HollywoodLESBIAN 26 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 2 fun27 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

ewwwwwwwww

[–]Eurowoman24 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

het here, that's a porn fantasy.

[–]MatthewofHouseGraySuper straight ally :) 17 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

1: That person is obviously viewing lesbians as a living fetish as opposed to people and what makes it worse are the so called lesbians in that sub who are supporting him. You would think that those people would be getting on him due to how sexualized lesbians are.

2: What the fuck is a "girl dick"? We all know this person isn't a woman who is referring to her clit as a "girl dick" due to the size of it.

[–][deleted] 21 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Never seen that sub before, and YIKES. Every comment is just, "sauce? Source? Whats her name? Yo where can I watch this to MaStuRbatE??"

So much sex negativity.

I always thought lesbians just had a much cuter, gentler form of love, and regretted that I couldn't have that too.

Ah yes, because who you want to have sex with dictates how you have that sex. Can't have "cute," (whatever that means... sets off my trans detector) gentle sex with men. Impossible.

It's funny how much we discover about ourselves through erotic material.

So trans does have something to do with sexuality? I'm shocked.

I hate how much lesbians are fetishized.

The irony.

Bleh, the straights are def not okay guys

They're enjoying better psychological functioning, and having better sociosexual relations than trans.

Don’t forget dudes commenting like “I wish I was there too” like bro if we’re playing into the illusion that those are real lesbians they 100% don’t want you there

A categorical misunderstanding of "lesbian porn." Obviously made for straight men. But the fantasy isn't that the actors are lesbians. It's that they're bisexual. That the two women are so overcome with lust that, in the absence of a man, they can't keep off each other. Then, as the consumer of this porn views it, they inject themselves into the fantastical scenario and the lust of the women turns to him.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Never seen that sub before, and YIKES. Every comment is just, "sauce? Source? Whats her name? Yo where can I watch this to MaStuRbatE??"

So much sex negativity.

To be fair, I don't want to hear about men masturbating on a lesbian forum, either. However it's ironic that some of the people saying this are men.

It's funny how much we discover about ourselves through erotic material.

So trans does have something to do with sexuality? I'm shocked.

Ha! Good catch.

A categorical misunderstanding of "lesbian porn." Obviously made for straight men. But the fantasy isn't that the actors are lesbians. It's that they're bisexual.

Not necessarily. Perhaps some "lesbian porn" is like that, idk how much, but I thought some of it was more like-- "look, here's a lesbian but she is secretly craving my dick" in which case it is about lesbians, or "turning"/converting lesbians to non-lesbians. I agree that bisexual women are very much fetishized though, and it's just as gross.

[–]Seahorse 20 insightful - 5 fun20 insightful - 4 fun21 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

"I've always had an aversion to lesbian porn even when I thought I was a man".

Oh sod off you are a man.

[–]homosomes 18 insightful - 7 fun18 insightful - 6 fun19 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

Now, people who can't separate porn from reality are the actual problem. Those guys have issues they need to work on.

... yeah, I know a few guys on that sub who have many issues that need working on.

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now, people who can't separate porn from reality are the actual problem

This is why I'm terrified that every kid these days has a smartphone. They're gonna go on the internet and think "aha! that's what sex is." That won't cause them any harm at all, nooooo.

[–]DifferentAirGC 16 insightful - 6 fun16 insightful - 5 fun17 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

>Don’t forget dudes commenting like “I wish I was there too” like bro if we’re playing into the illusion that those are real lesbians they 100% don’t want you there

>I used to think similarly to that. Turns out I’m trans!

Self-aware.

[–]MatthewofHouseGraySuper straight ally :) 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Let me get this straight, if I as a straight male were to come into that post and make a comment which was in the lines of me sexualizing lesbians I would be jumped on and then banned, but it's perfectly OK for a "MTF" to make a similar response, WTF.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Actually you could just say "I'm a straight male but I think I might be trans, that would be allowed lol. I've seen those comments before.

[–]marmorsymphata 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Lol, there is already a fake lesbian subreddit for the AGP men, but the real one got banned.

Wonder how they'd react if they found out most of the "lesbians" on there were men, haha.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaclownfish is a clown or a fish? || Febfem 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why I am not even surprised? It is just "power of brotherhood" and "bros over hoes". Same as MRA are always defending TRA and transwomen, but shitting on transmen.

[–]LilianH 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Wouldn't r/actuallesbians be the same as the figure on the right but with lipstick on?

[–]Ninaran 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not surprised considering the very major vast majority of modern transtrenders to it because of their AGP fetish. So obviously they're gonna fetishize the shit out of it.