Good job portraying me in a bad light, as some evil ice Queen. I am fully capable of empathizing where I see fit. It is that I had enough of gay people who normalize victim blaming and I can not have any empathy for them. Yes, gay people get indoctrinated, and bullied. But your "being gay is such a curse, we can't accept ourselves and want to be straight/normal because then we wouldn't be discriminated against and wouldn't feel left out in the heteronormative society" is victim blaming at its finest.

This is a simple scenario I think will help you understand my view: A boy is constantly bullied for his long hair in school, as a result hates his long hair and hates being different. If you tell him "please continue to be depressed, repressing your hatred for your long hair will lead to a worse mental health! It's okay to hate having long hair. If you were normal, and just changed and cut it short, you wouldn't get bullied!", then you would be shamed and would be seen as evil by pretty much any sane individual I know, for holding the victim of bullying responsible partially or wholly for the attack that was committed against him and even daring to say it's fine to hate a part of himself.

If he says that he hates his long hair and wants to get rid of it because if he had a short hair he would be normal and noone would bully him, that would also be considered victim blaming, since he is holding himself responsible for the attack eventhough he and his long hair are not at fault. Being different does not excuse bullying. And letting the bullied individual wallow in self-hatred is akin to letting depressed individuals cut themselves just because they think it can make them feel better and repressing the desire to cut would lead to a worse mental health.

No, cutting isn't going to lead to a better mental health, nor will wallowing in self-hatred and hatred for being gay/different lead to a better mental health. While hating your being gay may bring a momentary sense of calm and a release of tension, it's usually followed by guilt and shame and the return of painful emotions, in general more hatred. It's just going to fuel the negative feelings, and will lead to a worse mental health.

Not only that, when someone who is bullied hates a part of themselves, and bows down to the bullies, their attitude will help keep the cycle of bullying going, making them just as guilty and their bullies. They would no longer be mere victims, but perpetrators, as the other bullied people will learn from them that there is something wrong with them and wish they would change themselves for their bullies too.

Now, gay people saying they hate being gay/different and wish they were "normal", and telling gay people who hate being gay that "it's okay to hate being gay, don't repress your hatred. If you were not gay you wouldn't be discriminated against and would have it easy!" are somehow seen as "fine" and are even celebrated. Reprehensible.

Gay people get bullied in this heteronormative society, but the responsibility for bullying always belongs to the bullies, in other words the homophobes that discriminate against gay people and in general the straight people that force heteronormativity down gay people's throats. Not the gay people.

Gay people, the victims, should not change themselves or hate being gay/different just because they are discriminated against for it. If gay people want to hate something, or someone, they should really hate the homophobes, and the straight people that force heteronormativity down their throats, not their being gay. And telling them otherwise will only keep the cycle of bullying going.

I believe it is you who has no empathy for gay people. The victim blaming you help spread creates irresponsible cowards fine with gay people turning against their own best interests and against themselves.

And if shame is what brings the self-hating gay people back to their senses to stop that vicious cycle they help continue that hurts other gay people then so be it.

I know about indoctrination, I have first hand experience with it and have seen as much as I needed to. Was fed the Quran both at home and school from first grade, was made to wear Hijab because their imaginary "god" said so, even was hit by family members for not meeting their expectations when I was just a kid.

But I still did not believe, I did not care. It partly had to do with the misogyny that exists within the Abrahamic religions. I did not care to believe in a "god" so cruel, misogynistic and homophobic. And my attitude was: "even if he exists, I will spit on him and make him beg for my forgiveness. I would rather go to hell and be with Shaytan, he is a much better entity than this god is"

I had no wifi until first year of highschool to help me find out about the contradictions in the Quran that I know of now. We weren't rich, we were average to poor and had financial issues. And everyone I would meet was a muslim so I couldn't ask them questions. Despite all that, I didn't let them indoctrinate me. I can not see how a little simple girl in a poor family who was isolated from the rest of the world and had no access to internet until highschool due to financial issues could figure out she was being fed lies and didn't buy into the religious bs when she was in elementary school (and no I'm not that smart, I'm average), but you and others were incapable of doing this same thing. And I believe you can not make any excuses here.

End of rant.