With Keira victory, a reminder that transing really hurts LGB kids, especially lesbians

submitted by MezozoicGayoldschool gay from (self.LGBDropTheT)

Some statistics (pictures) with reasoning of distress on transitioned kids in Tavistock: https://twitter.com/Levi_SeaSerpent/status/1333950091351248898

Out of all kids pre-18 who transition - around fifth of all boys are gays, around third of girs are lesbians. Around fifth of boys - bisexual and around sixth of girls are bisexual.

At least 950 lesbians are transed on Tavistok servises. It is already huge number, but how many more of homosexual kids are transed in other clinics or taking self-bought (or bought by parents) treatment promoted by Mermaids?

One year old article about "trans the gay away" in Tavistock: https://archive.is/zy6PA

And this all is just one clinic only in the UK.

With all the pressure on homosexuality as "it is bigoted and transphobic", with big celebrities transing. Especially lesbians (as gay men have more representation in general), like Ellen Page who were "last young famous lesbian" and as example as strong gender non-confirming lesbian, who can be successful, to young lesbians is transing into a man to become gender confirming straight man instead - it will have even more devastating effect on homosexual youth. And will cause even more gays and lesbians to transition.

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[–]JulienMayfair 39 insightful - 1 fun39 insightful - 0 fun40 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I remember reading that, as a result of COVID and students staying home, quite a few young women had detransitioned, strongly indicating the role of social contagion on transition.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 35 insightful - 1 fun35 insightful - 0 fun36 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In Keira Bell case there was said that drop is at around 25-75% in transitioning, if kids are not put on blockers (and 4 years ago it was 90% or so).

That is already huge red flag, that this "treatment" is not a treatment, but something else.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 36 insightful - 1 fun36 insightful - 0 fun37 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's irrefutable evidence that it is a phase and is not the lie they keep spitting out about it "being who they inherently are."

Any condition that goes away on its own but is continued after starting expensive treatment for it sounds like big pharma's wet dream of a pure profit disease, not something that should ever be encouraged

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah. If your "solution" to problem only makes problem prolonged, than your "solution" is something opposite to solution.

And this all creates super toxic environment for any gender nonconforming girls and boys, where they are bullied for being what they want to be, so they are suffering much more extra distress.

[–]BiHorror 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Sheesh... This shit needs to hurry up and die off already. If people at 18 and over wanna "transition" for their sex dysphoria then whatever, I cannot force them not to, but these are kids we're talking about. If people wanna be "gnc" or "gender normative," then whatever. But leave the kids outta of this bullshit.

Feminine men and masculine women (alongside androgynous men and women) shouldn't need to "transition." Nothing wrong with being the opposite or in the middle of what is usually typical of your sex.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay[S] 29 insightful - 1 fun29 insightful - 0 fun30 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes. Feminine men are same men as masculine men. Masculine women are not less women either. If you are GNC man, there no need to become GC woman instead. If you are lesbian woman it is fine, society must not push you into becoming straight man.

This quote is so good on showing why we all are against gender ideology (just replace "feminists" with "gender critical people" or sometimes even "homosexual people", as most of us are GNC or were outlawed and lived through this): https://saidit.net/s/GenderCritical/comments/6x3h/perfectly_said_differences_between_gc_and_qt/

[–]BiHorror 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah... Sorry mate, but I'm not clicking that link. It's GC related stuff. I'm just against GI ideology.

[–]ExecuteHomophobes 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

If people at 18 and over wanna "transition" for their sex dysphoria then whatever, I cannot force them not to

There are laws, rules, and regulations regarding medical procedures that could always be tightened to make this a thing of the past, not to mention laws against conversion therapy.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just not the Canadian version of laws against conversion therapy, when gay conversion is allowed if it is transing kid. And asking kid "maybe you are gay and not trans?" is illegal.

[–]ExecuteHomophobes 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

First they brutalize indigenous children, now they're destroying gay children. Trump should have built the wall on the other side.

[–]BiHorror 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There are laws, rules, and regulations regarding medical procedures that could always be tightened to make this a thing of the past, not to mention laws against conversion therapy.

I don't really care what people do with their own bodies. I see it as any other form of body modification. For example, the nullos. If they wanna do it, then that's on them. Conversion therapy, since majority of it is forced, needs to be put to an end though.

[–]ExecuteHomophobes 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's what this is by any other name.

[–]VioletRemiCat, homosexual one 24 insightful - 3 fun24 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Mass homosexual conversion therapy.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Gender identity politics only works when the subject is held under constant reaffirmation. When they can't flaunt their pronouns in public, being home alone leaves them only with their biology, not the social expectations of what people call them. Thus, the brainwashing wears off and they inevitably realize that transition never really made them happy

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay[S] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Being trans in majority of cases is what you do and how you perform. And with esoteric pronouns you "do not exist" if no one is using them or validating you. When undressed and without people around such transes are just of their sex, and there no gender, as gender require society to exist.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, the eternal philosophical question:

if a trans person falls in a forest and there's no one around to use their preferred pronouns hear it... do they make a noise?

(besides REEEEEE that is)

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 14 insightful - 6 fun14 insightful - 5 fun15 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I always thought it was more about gay, but I guess in the west is more lesbians because is also self-hate about being women and sexist discriminations.

[–]ExecuteHomophobes 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Out of all kids pre-18 who transition - around fifth of all boys are gays, around third of girs are lesbians. Around fifth of boys - bisexual and around sixth of girls are bisexual. At least 950 lesbians are transed on Tavistok servises. It is already huge number, but how many more of homosexual kids are transed in other clinics or taking self-bought (or bought by parents) treatment promoted by Mermaids?

One is one too many.

[–]ThiccDropkickGay 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

But if you even hint that a kid might not be trans you're denying this trans kid's right to exist!

[–]peaked2020 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This won’t change anything... all the “trans kids” will be on Reddit and Twitter hearing “yes you are trans of course you are amazing, they are so bad, you are so trans”. That will get conditioned for years. As soon as they are older the transition starts.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Mermaids already promoting illegal ways to "solve this problem" for parents who want their kids transed.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I was looking to see whether reddit is talking about Keira Bell at all. Surprise, surprise it's mostly crickets. They don't debate or discuss things. They vacuum seal themselves away from anything that could threaten their cognitive dissonance. Anyway, I got banned for "transphobia" from a social justice-oriented subreddit for making this and only this comment in response to someone saying correlation does not equal causation with respect to the fact that nearly 100% of children put on puberty blockers go on to take cross-sex exogenous hormones and other further medical interventions:

In the vast majority of cases, children with gender dysphoria who want to be the opposite sex desist on their own by or around puberty. Puberty helps things click into place because you realize a lot of what you’re feeling is tied to being attracted to the same sex, if there is no medical intervention. The vast majority of them will grow up to be non-dysphoric gay or bisexual adults. There is currently no way to distinguish between these kids and those whose dysphoria will persist and who will want to transition to treat it. Also, gender dysphoria is very common among people attracted to the same sex generally, especially in youth, but transition is not the right solution for most of them. Gay actor Rupert Everett said he wanted to be a girl until he was 15 and that if he were young today, he probably would be transitioning.

This now qualifies as transphobia. HOW? Has a trans-identifying person ever gotten banned from anywhere on reddit for homophobia, I wonder? What would it even take at this point? It worries me how numb these people are to common sense. What little curiosity they have. How is it that they think they're so open-minded but they are so close-minded to facts and to the suffering of the vast majority of the human population?