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[–]motss-pb[S] 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

In 1978, Hertoft and Sorensen, regarding the 1951-1953 case of Chris Jorgensen, wrote:

the original intention of the medical team was not to change a man into a woman, but to help a man who suffered from his homosexual impulses."

The original medical team for this watershed sex-change operation consisted of Drs. Christian Hamburger, Georg Stürup and Dahl-Iversen, who, in the 1953 Journal of the American Medical Association, wrote the following:

"At any rate, from a eugenic point of view it would do no harm if a number of sexually abnormal men were castrated and thus deprived of their sexual libido"

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 16 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Similar was practiced in USSR around 1930-80s (for men, women were sent to mental asylums intead), mostly just hormones, without surgeries at first. Same was practiced in Japan as well.

A lot of countries with homophobic laws seems to be coming to this conclusion, starting conversion therapies with electroshocking and mental institutions, and then going to "transition to other sex", to "make them heterosexual woman, instead of homosexual man". Religious countries went to such conclusions too, but with different approach, in Iran goverment saying that they are saving homosexual people by transitioning them, because it is "female soul that was born in wrong body and feeling distress". Like no conversion therapies and tries to "cure homosexuality" were successful, so instead of changing sexuality they decided to change person themselves.

[–]ExecuteHomophobes 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Similar was practiced in USSR around 1930-80s (for men, women were sent to mental asylums intead), mostly just hormones, without surgeries at first.

Then the so-called "red baiters" were right all along.

[–]divingrightintowork 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

lol in my gender discord all the Ts are like "transition isn't conversion therapy," and it's like A. Conversion and transition are synonyms B. "Transition is the OG CT, look at dis."

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

So many young adult or teen transmen are lesbians, especially ones who detransition later. Gay boys seems to be transitioned earlier and mostly because of the homophobic parents. So it is pretty surely conversion therapy.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

And yet there are also a lot of "gay" transmen and transbians out there. I would assume that the gay transmen do it because of misogyny spread by the T community?

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

They are "gay" and "lesbians", because they are straight - and they can not change their sexuality, so for their lies to hold up, they need to be "gay" or "lesbian" as well.

And as it is seen in most communities, gay men are hated, while "gay" transmen are praised, lesbian women are pushed from every single space, while transbians are given all the voices and spaces. Very nice parody about this: /s/LGBDropTheT/comments/6rq1/i_fcking_hate_gay_people/

[–]cinnaflo 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This makes a lot of sense...

[–]MrFahrenheit46 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I bet that if one were to post this in all the liberal circles there'd be chaos. At least then we'd get to see their true colors.