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[–][deleted] 31 insightful - 1 fun31 insightful - 0 fun32 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

(bit late, I know)

It's not about you, people. It's about women's right for safe abortion. Please don't try to insert you stupid ''people with a vagina'' agenda into our fight, ok? Not every one of us supports this.

[–]Lesbianese 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So awful. I've seen other instances of this where organizations have gone "we support people" in response to the women's march.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This seems depressing coming from Poland. In my experience Slavic countries tend to be less tolerant and full of this shit. But then I noticed... this person's age is listed as 19. Not to sound ageist but I think there's a reason why 99% of non-American/English trans and nonbinary people are <20. Take for example my home country, Russia, the only trans people I have ever seen are teenage girls online and a lot of them are very casual about it (ie: identify as "nonbinary" instead of full trans, show no interest in transition, and basically just use it as a way to say "I'm not a girl" but not take it as extreme as surgery.)

It's sad because both Russia and Poland have a horrible misogyny problem, so, I think I can guess why these people do it. But aside from young girls I don't

[–]roguecanine 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Is misogyny really that horrible in Russia? It seems like it's actually worse in US. More religion, more conservative areas. Women in Russia were among the first in the world to gain voting rights, rights to work, they participated in WW2 both in front lines and at home in factories. It's in the language too - 'mankind' is the usual word to refer to humanity in English, while in Russian - человечество - doesn't highlight only half of humanity, while leaving the other out. Same with other words, like manhours etc. Take famous quotes and speeches - in english it's more often than not about a 'man' while russian translation is 'human' (the first that comes to mind is the Man on the Arena speech). Not to mention the whole Russian stereotype of a woman that'd 'enter the burning house and would stop a horse mid-stride'. And there's a huge nostalgy in US about the 50s to the point it has become a meme, there's no such alternative in Russia - in the 50s Russian women worked, USSR provided childcare and such which resulted in more equal participation in workforce - without any need from women to protest. And there's huge shaming of single mothers in US, while in Russia I think it's generally a compassionate feeling towards them and the blame is put on the father who's not there.

So really I don't think there is as much misogyny in Russia. Maybe some surface level stuff? But it's more deep rooted in US culture, in my opinion.

Poland - perhaps, though. Especially with their current gov and recent laws.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'd say that both the US and Russia have a misogyny problem, just in different flavors. Not necessarily better or worse, but... different. I've found there's a lot of casual sexism about, stuff that might not seem extreme but is common, not sure how to describe it. Some things are definitely better than the US, sometimes not so much. I do think the US has it worse for "traditional" sexism like romantacizing the past, and religious influence, however some parts of Russia can be pretty religious too which makes me concerned things might get worse.

But in all honesty... It's hard for me to say, because I haven't been home in so long, and I find it hard to trust any claims about what Russia is/isn't by third parties. Americans and other outsiders demonize the country, but direct Russian sources might be biased too. I guess I'll never know until I return for myself

[–]julesburm1891 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I don’t speak Polish. Can someone please translate?

[–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Non-woman when they're feeling safe&comfortable enough to be a control freak about how people perceive and speak of them, but as soon as shit hits the fan it's back to sponging off women's resources. Typical.

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh god I remembered seeing this and it's the best example of how entitled they are. This issue isn't about trans/nbies but women. No one talks about trans issues here but specifically women's rights.

Peak "why aren't we talking about me???". Pure narcissism.