Iowa woman wanted vote changed after learning Buttigieg is gay

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[–]LilianH 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (16 children)

A more recent "I want to change my vote" from Naomi Wolf

If I’d known Biden was open to ‘lockdowns’ as he now states, which is something historically unprecedented in any pandemic, and a terrifying practice, one that won’t ever end because elites love it, I would never have voted for him.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Naomi Wolf is a dumbass too, then. Lockdowns are not "historically unprecedented". They've been recorded happening since at least the bubonic plague in the Middle Ages. It was also way less humane back then. They simply boarded up the doors and windows of a house infected by plague, trapping the inhabitants inside. No internet, no phones, none of the luxuries we have today.

On a separate note, elites don't "love lockdowns", b/c losing their workforce loses them a fuckton of money. Anyone claiming this sounds like a conspiracy-loving sucker.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Yea that's exactly why all those elites have been going broke during this "pandemic." It's not like they got their workers declared essential and made cash hand over fist while small business owners got bent. Nothing like that, no no.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (13 children)

That's because the big businesses are better at gaming the system. Not because they love lockdowns. If they love lockdowns they wouldn't try and get their workers declared essential, now would they?

If you're putting pandemic in scare quotes you're a fucking idiot. Anti-lockdown protests are astroturf activism. Have you considered turning off your propaganda and going for a walk?

[–]Shadow_Lurker 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Well, they got a point.

This pandemic have been the perfect opportunity for most big corporations to take out their competition, mainly because unlike them, they actually got the structure and funds to adapt to a delivery service.

The government (all of them, to some extent) don't give a shit about small businesses, they really don't, and this crisis only served to reinforce that.

Do not be surprised to see people doubting the actions governments are taking in relation to this crisis or the existence of the crisis itself: when the ones that benefit the most from this shit are the usual suspects (tech industry, big corporations and so on) it's natural for people to be sceptical.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

when the ones that benefit the most from this shit are the usual suspects (tech industry, big corporations and so on) it's natural for people to be skeptical.

It's not just who benefited. It's the fact that most hospitals were never inundated to levels that were claimed, the death rate is extremely low even with padding from car accidents and deaths unrelated to covid, and people like bill gates saying we need to be in lockdown until the end of 2021 even after all the evidence points to this being not as big a deal as claimed. Per CDC website, the deaths of preventable diseases due to lack of hospital access is now greater than covid deaths.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

From the hospitals I work with and the doctors I personally know that work at those hospitals, yes hospitals were inundated and did not have enough supplies and they had doctors performing procedures without masks as a result. That wasn't propaganda.

[–]julesburm1891 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

My fiancée is an ER nurse. There absolutely was a inundation of patients this spring and a lack of supplies in our region. The ICU at her hospital was filled to capacity and covid patients started filling up ER beds. Instead of distributing proper PPE, the hospital sent them a video of how to reuse N-95 masks and asked nurses to care for covid patients with some of the shittiest cloth masks I’ve seen.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Spring....it's now winter and yet we are still in lockdown.

[–]julesburm1891 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We might be in different regions then. We were very hard hit at first, but things have evened out. Now, other than having to wear masks in public places, we’re completely reopen.

I don’t want to argue with you about the policies of lockdowns, but I do want to clarify that the hospital’s patient load and treatment of staff was abysmal for some of us.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

In my area hospitals were empty.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

OK and two of us just told you that the hospitals were absolutely inundated where we are, so it wasn't propaganda regardless of your own personal experience. Nor where the hospitals empty where the older people I knew needed to schedule their surgery around the lack of availability. Children's hospitals in my area were begging for supply donations.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yea 8 months ago, in some areas, hospitals had overload. Others never did.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You are the moron here. 99.7%survival rate is not a pandemic. Also your logic regarding big companies is laughable. Your kind of big brained thinking is why the T took over the LGB moviment.